Dark Marks and Veritaserum and so on

zelvusenka1 zelvusenka1 at yahoo.co.uk
Sun May 22 21:27:41 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 129344

First sorry for my bad English...

There are few things that cause me sleepless nights:
Maybe somebody was already writing about it, I´m quite new here. I
would like to know your opinions on my following thoughts:

1. I wonder how wizard´s justice works. Why they just don´t use
veritaserum and ask? They wouldn´t have to organize any hearings. Plus it would be much easier to identify Voldemort´s supporters.

- or maybe veritaserum belongs to DA as well as imperio, cause it
attacks somebody´s free will. (?) Or it´s a question, how veritaserum
exactly works and what is The Truth :-)

2. Dark mark: I´ve read few opinions, mentioning, that it is not just
physical matter, but more likely spiritual - I rather say
psychological - how much is Snape able to supress his secret thoughts
(about being a spy), how mentally strong he has to be to face
Voldemort, who  doesn´t even use his wand to perform legillimens? 
Isn´t it possible that dark mark can be supressed mentally? That Snape is able to put aside for a while the piece of the "spiritual" binding he shares with Voldy?  Anyway Voldemort would have to be mad (ok ok, he is, if he kills muggles and risks revealing-uncovering of wizarding world) to mark his the CLOSEST followers with something permanently visible, that it could bring them into prison so easily. 
(However they should be powerful enough to be able to fight a few
aurors - he doesn´t take loosers in his inner circle, does he?)

3.Age. It seems that wizards have slightly different morphology -
otherwise they would hardly survive those falls from the brooms or
deformations of body parts (when hexed HG gets big teeth n so on). We
also know that they can live very long time (I don´t count influence
of Philosopher stone, but Dumbledore is around 160). It makes me think about an impact on social structure!  When do wizards get really old, how do they die, what kind of sicknesses thay have - except hexes. Can they die of AIDS or cancer or heartattack? - do they smoke or have different drugs (or just teins in so much cups of tea in England?)


4.Pureblood and mudblood. 
Stereotypes. On what are they based in our society?
Among other features is a fear of unknown - begining with dark streets ending with people of different colours, habits and beliefs. Partly they are based on long time of inequity between sexes, which is artificialy excused by different bilogical predetermination.

BUT is magical power determined by sex (not gender, but sex - physical form, muscles, strenght...)? What if it is NOT?
Then the main statement is: The original pureblood society would have
to develop differently from muggle one...  Also because of the age - wizards were living three times longer than muggle aristocracy (I don´t count peasant women, who died in 23 giving birth to their fourth or fifth child) - and so they had different life experience...longer, observing from distance the changes, longer time
to find out how not to get burned by inquisitors for their
differences, longer time to gain the wisdom and pass it...and pass it
to wizards as well as witches! If they didn´t want to extinct, witches (mothers of next generations) had to be skilled as well as wizards.  Not like in muggle world, where women gained access to universities in 19th century.  They had to hide their world - mostly beacuse of religion practices of that time.
Why they say "Dear Merlin" (who was a druid), and they are not saying
"Oh my God" or "Oh Jesus"?  Do you think, that they believe in God rather than the Nature?  (God that manifested himself thru centuries in slaying civilisations with black death, permiting existence of The Church - sending the knights work on the bloodshed in the course of the holy crusades to free "His thomb"?)
Why Voldemort has got such an apetite for power...he´s not afraid of
somebody above or beneath this world...He´s afraid of nothingness
which comes after the bodily functions stop working...that´s why his
target is immortality as was stated.
I don´t wonder why Malfoys hate muggles. How many of their ancestors
were burned down? (or drowned, that was also popular way of death)
Their stereotyped fear is pointed towards muggles, the common enemy
(Hard to say if only from the past?)
The best way how to uncover a secret is to involve more people. When
certain wizards opened themselves to muggle world, accepting
halfbloods and mudbloods, risking that muggles will notice wizarding
world (for example so many kids running against the brick wall at the
train station), that thay will want to gain gold, potions,
power...blalbla, as people usually desire for this...and who knows it
better than purebloods, watching this for centuries?
To me it sounds like natural step to support Voldemort, who wants to
clean Hogwarts, and whole wizarding world.
Unfortunatelly the times changed and if purebloods like Malfoys would
like to refresh the population, then Lucius and Narcisa would have to
spend more time making babies. (I bet Lucius is green with envy when
he sees Arthur Weasley´s rabbit-like hord of redhaired
inheritors...inheritors of nothing valuable...i´m nasty I know, I
don´t like Weasleys, however the interest in rubber duck is touching)

The problem with Voldemort is, that he obviously enlarged his plans to the whole world (he is halfblood enough to be such psychopat + when you think you are immortal One world is not enough) and when he starts to include muggle killing in his plans the revelation of wizarding world is close...wasn´t that the rational impulse for Snape to leave the maniac? No loosing of close person, no crazy dead-wife-and-child theories, just brain on the right place?

Halfblood - one parent wizard, one muggle.
I´m not sure what caused the necessity of theese cross marriages. (?)
Anyway imagine, that you marry somebody, who dies in his or hers let´s say 75-80 and you live till 150 or more? 
Can you marry again?
You are close to the top of your magical powers, you certainly have
"erotic spells and potions" at hand (in wand), you gained your
reputation in whatever you do (wizarding world is quite small and
media limited) ..well me as a 80 year old witch, i would need a man around 20 to fit him into the rest of my life...Can you imagine a muglle man 20 years old willing to ...marry and have sex with 80 old witch?  (You know, you certaily cannot drink polyjuice potion every day, but we would have to ask the Potions master) So, she or he remains free or marries another widow or widower (wizard). 
The child from this cross marriage may or may not have abilities. 
Depends on the couple live in muggle or in wizarding world (muggle
partner is quite lost without wand, back to middle ages - no
electricity, quills, candles, parchments)...so this couple most
probably live in muggle world...for the child it means, that it is
RISED among muggles until he or she is 11 - attending schools,
watching TV, playing PC games (I would go crazy in Hogwarts without my notebook)...reading magazines, watching advertisments and getting
brainwashed and infected with muggle stereotypes and inventions like
cellulitide, myth of beauty or power requirements on men (the
foodbringers, musclemachos or electronicmasters).
And this child is still lucky, cause in the evenings or at the
weekends mommy or daddy (or very very old grandparents) talks about
magic and future, and teaches the basics...

Mudblood - both parents muggles. Tragedy I say. These parents have to
lie to the people around, invent which school their child attends,
what he or she is going to do in the future ("She will be the Quiddtch player?" "What?" "Broom, flying on the broom!" or "What happened to your kid?" "The testral bite of her leg, but she will be fine" "What?"...you know neighbours don´t take it well - sorry to mention it now...do you remember Dumbledore said that previous teacher Care of magical creatures left to take care of his
remainig limbs? If he were DE, Voldy would give him back those limbs,
it´s a pity the greatest wizard ever doesn´t have this abilities)

Back to the topic... so on parental level the muggle couple gets into
certain isolation, or maybe even their parents (the grandparents) may
not take it well.  The mudblood child is in the age of 11 ripped out of the well known world into really odd, however thrilling one, but such child already brings the mentality into his or hers interactions.  I am not surprised, that Harry doesn´t meet more "opinion" obstacles.

Hermione is a mudblood, so they were rised very similarly. Ron is
pureblood - middle sort, but his father is crazy about muggles n
"brings them home" and Molly Weasley (sorry this woman is a parody of
mother, she´s there for fun, not to demonstrate real witchlike mother
- I hope).

In pureblood family the child gets all education at home, from parents and very old grandparents...all that reading, counting...hexing, history basics, reasons why to hate muggles. 
When I´m writing about pureblood I imagine Malfoy´s.  Don´t know Narcissas job (could be potions...if Snape makes hints on
certain "talents"), Lucius is quite bussy giving embraceries there and there and protecting sources of family gold.  Young Draco (can you imagine Lucius changing smelly napkins?...i know, he probably did it from distance with wand, i doubt he would allow some dirty house elf to touch his Precious) spending plenty of time with grandparents...or studying with parents...how well he rode his
broom, who taught him fly? Hardly at muggle teacher. Does the studying at home  (for generations) change family relationships? And how? Are purebloods less sociable even with their own kind? Or do they meet on (in) the "sandbox"? 

5. Sexual behavior. 
If you are alive that long, when do you think, you become
impotent...110? 120? 130? Never? With right potion or spell? (Ask
Snape, he will be delighted to answer)  The options of satisfaction you have in wizarding world are more than in muggle one...that´s why wizards don´t have pornography. Are you surprised? WHY? One reason can be, that it would be a real trouble - wizarding population is not that big and the exposed persons would be very quickly recognized. Are wizards ashamed for nudity? Or the Church
didn´t have that impact with all that crap about sin, dirty body,
dirty touches and thoughts?

I would be really interested in your suggestions and
opinions...especially on last issue.

It is important to see things with new eyes. If we are able to play
with a thought that magic exists, we should be able to imagine
different society, considering all influences, imaging the history,
the infrastructure, the occupations, the activities they share, the
things they use and things they don´t and how it forms them...

Bye, Terka







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