Does JKR want us to hate Draco? (was: Re: Admonishing Snape)
cubfanbudwoman
susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Sat May 28 22:29:10 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 129648
Betsy earlier:
>>How do we, the readers, *know* that JKR doesn't like Draco?<<
Betsy after responses:
> Okay, so this is the "JKR wants us to hate Draco but is such a bad
> author she can't get it across in the text and is forced to give
> readers a heads up in interviews and on her website," point of
> view. In other words, readers *aren't* able to pick up that Draco
> is evil to the bone. Only fans devoted enough to visit the
> website and listen to interviews are able to realize how JKR feels
> about Draco. You'll excuse me if I find such arguments as less
> than satisfying.
SSSusan:
I concede that the responses you have gotten, Betsy, are those which
point to the website or interviews, where JKR is talking about Draco
and Draco vs. Tom. But I do *not* agree that that is the only place
we readers are being told that Draco is a nasty bit of work. "Evil
to the bone" is not a phrase I'd use -- at least not yet -- but
Draco as a nasty bit of work, as a bad boy, as a thoroughly
unlikable person, I would say yes... *in* canon.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think those who say Draco has fans because
some readers do a lot of projecting and/or a lot of filling in the
blanks with things they want to be true about him is true. I have a
feeling that if we had a poll of HPfGU members re: whether they
think JKR *likes* Draco as a character [as opposed to liking him as
a character she gets to write], I think the response would be
overwhelmingly "NO!" And I don't think they'd have to turn to the
interviews/website to get that feeling.
I mean, let's turn the tables a bit. If we want to stick just to
canon and avoid interviews & website fodder, can people point to
places in canon where JKR is telling us she *does* like Draco, or
that he's *not* seriously nasty? I know I don't see it anywhere.
Perhaps she's painted him as a child we're not *never* sympathetic
towards at all, nor perhaps not as a child we're 100% convinced
can't change, but that she *likes* him? I'd need some examples of
that.
Betsy:
> A casual search around the internet calls up quite a few thinking
> folks who *do* hope for something better. Are *all* of them
> fooling themselves? Or is there something *in the text* that
> gives folks hope?
SSSusan:
This is my question, too. I *don't* see anything in the text that
gives people much hope, even if the possibility isn't totally closed
off. But we were also talking about *liking* Draco as a character,
not just whether he has hope of turning himself around. Again, I
just don't see it in canon.
> Betsy:
> But does JKR succeed in getting across that Draco is evil?
SSSusan:
She does for me. Buckbeak, his taunting of H/R/H, his constant put-
downs and threats about Mudbloods and Lupin and Hagrid, his attacks
on Harry, his insults of the Weasleys, .... I don't see how this
ISN'T succeeding at showing us that he is, if not evil, damn near
close, and certainly not likeable.
Siriusly Snapey Susan
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