Riddle solved - congrats Renee!

quigonginger quigonginger at yahoo.com
Sun May 29 16:46:34 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 129680

> tinglinger
> =============
> If noone else was at Godric's Hollow to witness the alleged events
> that occurred there (in particular Lily's sacrifice which is so
> vitally important to the plot), then JKR violated the Omnipotent
> Observer rule of writing (i.e. a story must be verifiable in order
> to have validity.) 
> JKR has been very careful not to violate this rule -- note the
> dream about Quirrel's Turban, Slytherin, and Malfoy that Harry had
> at the end of Chapter Seven - The Sorting Hat in SS. Jo notes that
> Harry  "woke, sweating and shaking." at which point he seemed to
> have recalled the dream. But then, "He rolled over and fell asleep
> again, and when he woke next day, he didn't remember the dream at 
all."
> If she had left out the part where Harry woke up and then went back
> to sleep, a reader might have some doubt as to whether the dream
> happened since it never reached Harry's conscious mind. The "woke
> up, sweating and shaking" part tells us that Harry did experience 
> the dream, even though he couldn't recall it later. 
> 
> 
> SO........... what does all this tell me ?
> 
> SOMEONE ELSE was at Godric's Hollow at the time Harry's parents
> were murdered.
> 
> As for who .... 

Ginger sets her time turner and fails.  Coming back to the present, 
she says:

This has come up before.  I tried to search the archives so I could 
properly credit people, but there were just too darn many posts.

Going from memory, I'll sum it up into these categories:

1) Another person there.  Guesses include:  Peter, Snape, Hagrid, 
Sirius, Remus, Lucius (or another evil DE), a spy DE (most theories 
include Snape here), someone with an invisibility cloak (James'?)

2) Someone other than a person.  Guesses include:  A portrait 
(Gryffindor, Bowman Wright, a former headmaster...), a ghost, a house 
elf, a mirror like James and Sirius used for communication.

3) No one was there.  Harry was taken to Hogwarts and his little 
memories put in a penseive during the missing 24 hours.  I don't 
remember all the details, but someone suggested something like the 
Maurader's Map which would have tracked their movements, with a 
playback option if I remember correctly.  Anyone else remember that?  
Did I even hear it here?

I love all these theories.  Does anyone have any more?  Anyone want 
to step up and take credit for yours?

Tinglinger, I am dying to hear yours.  This is one of those 
situations where I can't come up with a plausible one of my own and 
am at the mercy of the creative types on the list.






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