The Sacking of Trelawney
hickengruendler
hickengruendler at yahoo.de
Tue May 31 11:27:22 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 129764
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Tonks" <tonks_op at y...> wrote:
<snip>
>
> Then we come to the Sacking. No one seems to be the least
surprised
> that DD was able to replace Trelawney so quickly. Actually within
> it seems 5 to 15 minutes of when she was sacked. Now I am sure
that
> maybe he figured it might happen and had a plan, but even still,
his
> timing seems impossible. How did he know it was even happening?
I
> can't imagine that Umbridge gave him any warning that it was going
> to happen at all and at that very moment. He would have had to
have
> had it all planned out with Firenze ahead of time. And what kind
of
> an agreement would that have been? "Well Firenze, I don't want to
> insult you or anything, but just in case my divination teacher is
> sacked could you come along and take over?" Somehow I can't see
> that type of conversation with a Centaur!! I guess Firenze could
> have offered to help in anyway he might be needed whenever DD
called
> him, but again I can't see that either since he knows the price he
> will pay. I would think that it would have taken some time for DD
> to discuss it with him and for Firenze to make that type of a
> decision.
>
> We are so taken in by the action that we (or at least I) don't see
> the
*wait a minute how did that happen?* part of the whole
thing.
> It just sort of flows and no one in the story even bats an eye.
> Just poof DD is there to save the day, just like always. No
wizard
> can be *that* good. How does he do it? OK, now maybe there are
> paintings in the room that Umbridge and Trelawney were in and they
> told DD. But even then, it just all happens so fast. Maybe DD
uses
> a time-turner. But I don't think he does that all the time
> either. What is his secret??
>
>
> This like everything else has probably been discussed before. If
so
> where? I know that many of us are rereading or re-listening to
the
> 5th book right now. Does anyone else have any thoughts about this?
>
> Tonks_op
Hickengruendler:
Here's my speculation. Umbridge said, that Fudge had to sign the his
decision to remove Trelawney. She also said, that this "happened"
one hour ago. If one of Dumbledore's spies (possibly an Order
member, who knows how important it is to have Trelawney safe in
Hogwarts) in the ministry alarmed him at once, he could have enough
time to react. The question is, who could have told him? Arthur
isn't trusted enough by Fudge, and I don't see why Fudge should
consult Tonks or Kingsley, when he wants to sack a teacher. If you
believe that Percy is working undercover for the Order, than he's by
far the most likely candidate, since he is in the position to her
about Fudge's decisions. If not, than we have a few candidates, who
are not really likely, but nonetheless possible, to hear about this,
(this includes one of the portraits).
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