CHAPDISC: HBP 2, Spinner's End

Little lama mcandrew at bigpond.com
Tue Nov 1 12:53:00 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 142373

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" <willsonkmom at m...> 
wrote:
>
>  Potioncat, earlier:
> > 3. Bella knows Narcissa is going to visit Snape, <snip> Snape, 
Pettigrew and Narcissa all seem 
> > familiar with the area. Yet it was Bella who was supposed to be 
part 
> > of young Severus's gang. <  >> 
> Potioncat, now:
> Lots of you have posted on this one. It is a question that 
actually nags at me, although many of you brought up things I hadn't 
thought of.. <snip> Sirius said (GoF?) that Snape belonged to a gang 
of Slytherins, which included the LeStranges,  who almost all became 
DEs. <snip> Friends or not, if Spinner's End was Snape's childhood 
> home, it would be understandable that he wouldn't invite his 
Slytherin classmates there.
> 
> But, Snape is a DE and so is Bella. They knew each other in school 
and afterwards. We don't know what Snape did in his younger days for 
LV, but perhaps Bella and Snape never had to meet at his 
workplace/home. In fact, maybe Spinner's End wasn't his home or 
workplace in the '80's.


Hi, Lama here.  Just a small point ... I think the 'Lestranges' who 
Sirius was referring to would have to be Rodolphus and his brother 
Rabastan and any other siblings in their family.  Bella wasn't a 
Lestrange during her Hogwarts days, as she hadn't married one of 
them yet - she was Bellatrix Black.  So she was not listed by Sirius 
as one of the Slytherin gang members, and we can't really assume 
that she knew Snape at school.

If the Black Family Tree was chronologically organised, Bellatrix 
was the eldest of three Black sisters, the youngest of whom 
(Narcissa) married Lucius Malfoy, who is himself four(IIRC) years 
older than Snape et al. If Narcissa is about Lucius's age, then 
Bella must be at least 6 years older than Snape. Or if Narcissa is 
around Snape's own age (likely, from Snape's very particular regard 
for her), Bella's lower age limit would have to be at least two 
years older, as there is another sister in between them according to 
the tapestry.

I'm inclined to think Bella is several years older than both Snape 
and Narcissa, so that she might not have even known Snape at 
school.  The only hitch with this is that she later married one of 
the Lestranges, who were part of the gang. But hey, would Bella let 
convention deter her from marrying a younger man? And chances are 
that the Lestrange brother she married (Rodolphus?), at least, was a 
senior gang member when Snape was a junior.

> 
> What I'm wondering is,  how long has she distrusted him? 

Lama: I haven't thought about this much, but I'd say her vehement 
distrust/dislike of Snape probably dated from the moment she 
realised that he had usurped her position as VM's new favourite. 
Probably about 10 minutes after VM escorted her from the MOM 
disaster.


Lama








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