Dumbledore knows? (Re: Speculating on Voldemort's conscience)
Jen Reese
stevejjen at earthlink.net
Tue Nov 1 20:42:01 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 142384
Debbie:
> I don't have time right now to address most of Jen's points. I
> have been working on Potioncat's assignment....Though I've already
> missed the Monday deadline!
Jen: Uh-oh, detention for you!;) I'll be glad to see a summary of
all the many horcrux debates so far, as I've followed them and still
can't make up my mind.
> Debbie:
> I appreciate your dilemma, Jen. Of all the objections that have
> been raised to Horcrux!Harry, why Dumbledore didn't tell him is
> one of the most significant, because "Well, Dumbledore made a
> mistake" just doesn't seem consistent with his thorough
> consideration of the possibilities. I am coming around to the view
> that Dumbledore very much suspects that the last Horcrux is Harry,
> but deliberately withheld that information from him. Unlike "DD
> goofed" this explanation is very consistent with Dumbledore's
> behavior with regard to Harry. He may not lie to Harry, but he
> definitely withholds information....
Jen: Except he would be guilty of an outright lie in this case,
telling Harry he believed the last horcrux was Nagini. He *is* the
master of witholding information, and if he suspected Harry was a
horcrux, I believe he would have evaded the question as he did with
the ring story. Instead he told an elaborate reason why he believed
it to be Nagini, even going into detail about living things acting
as horcruxes (ding, ding, ding! Another tip-off for Dumbledore to
consider Harry) and how Voldemort has so much control over her.
Another possibility I'm considering is denial on Dumbledore's part.
He talked a good game about the nameless, faceless creatures who
might die if he allowed his personal feelings for Harry to
intervene, but I could live with a Dumbledore who could not get past
his love for Harry :). Not exactly a heinous flaw for a man to have,
eh? JKR said "immense brainpower does not protect you from emotional
mistakes" and that "Dumbledore exemplifies this". If his wisdom did
indeed isolate him as JKR said, could Harry have been the one crack
in his armor, built up to protect others rather than himself? Even
with all the resolve in the world, could his feelings for Harry have
kept him skirting around the issue of Harry as a horcux, never quite
allowing that possibility to surface?
Debbie:
> Telling Harry that after finding and destroying all of the other
> Horcruxes *and* Voldemort, he will likely have to kill himself
> isn't information that will help Harry in his quest; in fact it
> might weaken his resolve if he knows this is the last thing he
> will ever do. I think DDis relying on Harry to recognize what he
> has to do when the time comes.Until that time, for Harry to
> entertain the possibility that he is a Horcrux is a burden; it
> will not help him at all in accomplishing his other tasks.
Jen: My thought is Harry would be almost relieved to know he is a
horcrux, one less to worry about finding, you know? He doesn't fear
dying, understands the value of being like James and Lily and all
the others who believe defeating Voldemort is a cause worth fighting
and dying for. I *could* see Harry detaching himself from his
friends if he found that out, something Dumbledore has always
discouraged (perhaps because of his own mistakes in that area?). So
that could be a reason for Dumbledore to withold, except that takes
us back to the story about Nagini. *Sigh*. Circular.
Jen
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