Debatable ethical issues in OotP and HBP

cubfanbudwoman susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Fri Nov 4 13:11:07 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 142476

SSSusan:
> > Well, yes, indeed he did this – after Harry's letter which spoke 
> > about the scar hurting.  Sirius CARES about Harry, who is a 
> > *child* still.  A parentless child to whom he is godfather.  A 
> > child who's obviously in danger and whom this godfather has been 
> > able to DO nothing about for 12 years.  Now he has the chance to 
> > DO something. He has an obligation, and Harry wants him in his 
> > life.  True, Sirius could have elected to stay put, to stay safe, 
> > so that he'd have a better chance of being there later on... but 
> > how many of us would have done that?  And, as Nora pointed out, 
> > how many of us would've called that cowardly?  Catch-22.  

Magda:
> Ah, yes, Sirius cares so much for Harry.  He LOVES him SO much.  
> God, how lucky Harry is to have such a wonderful godfather!  Makes 
> me break down in sniffles, it really does.  (Excuse me while I find 
> a Kleenex...)
> 
> I guess I'm just a mean rotten person because my response to this
> is...so what?  Molly cares for and loves Harry too, and she's
> certainly not above criticism because of it.  


SSSusan:
I can't quite believe I'm responding, but since your comments were 
written as a response to a portion of a post of mine, I feel a bit of 
an obligation to do so.  First off, can you point me to where I said 
that Sirius should be "above criticism" because he loved Harry?  In 
the post from which the above quote came, I agreed with Carol in a 
couple of spots re: things Sirius did which were NOT smart or helpful.

Second, the *main* point of my very lengthy post was that we should 
be critical of all characters in the same way; not to defend one at 
all costs while trashing another at all costs.  As a "weirdo" who 
both likes Sirius and believes in Snape's loyalty to the White Hats, 
my point was that I think it's possible to see fault in characters we 
like or, overall, support.  Sirius had failings; Snape has flaws.  
Sirius, imo, cared about Harry and wanted to protect and help him.  
Snape, imo, cared about DD and wanted -- still wants, I believe -- to 
help him.  

Not sure how any of that showed me as believing Sirius was "above 
criticism."  I believe we can be critical of each character, even 
those we enjoy or like.

As an aside, I believe, based on what we've been given so far and on 
what Jo's presented us in interviews & at her site, that love is 
gonna play a big part in the series' conclusion.  Whether people like 
it or not, I believe it's coming.  I'm glad I'm fine with that, 
personally.

Siriusly Snapey Susan, who thinks sarcasm really isn't a very helpful 
thing many times.










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