Phi and the mechanics of possession

M.Clifford Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Fri Nov 4 23:59:15 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 142502



bboymn:
> For one corporeal person to possess another, it makes no sense, if
the possessor leaves his body behind and vulnerable. <snip>

Carol:
I agree that it would make no sense for Voldemort to leave a
vulnerable body behind when he possesses someone, not just in that
scene but at any time after he acquires a body. His body would be an
empty shell like the soul-sucked Barty Crouch's, and anyone (even a
disaffected DE like Wormtail) could destroy it, leaving him once again
as Vapor!mort.

Valky:
As much as you'd probably like me to avoid it Carol, this might take
some Maths. <beg>

As I wrote before, IMO, Possession will involve the conciousness.
Scientists are trying to come up with a theory of conciousness and
some way to measure what it is,  but even so I am not sure JKR will be
espousing too much of their work in Book 7, I would say that JKR would
more likely to have feet in the theological concepts of conciousness.
That's the good news. The bad news is that even these have
mathematical basis. The greeks developed their theories of
conciousness in the sacred geometries. The geometries work together to
form different aspects of conciousness, the greatest of which, is love. 

The golden mean/ratio (derived from the fibonacci sequence)
mathematically describes many phenomenon in nature such as lightning,
tree and river branches, molecular patterns of metals, and snowflakes.
And just for fun I'll mention that the fibonacci sequence is even used
in knitting patterns! <g> 

If HP follows this meta-concept of conciousness then it would explain
how during the possession in the MOM Harry felt himself "wrapped in
the coils of a creature with red eyes". The key words here are 'coils'
- the logarithmic golden ratio coils; and the 'red eyes' -  red is the
colour associated with the "endless knot" which would be an
appropriate golden mean application for Voldemort's character due to
its said association with the source of misery (there's even a
wordplay in it that fits- LV, endless, NOT!). 

See a picture of the endless knot here:

http://www.to.infn.it/argo/knot.jpg

If JKR's concept of conciousness is related to the sacred geometry,
and I would say it definitely could be, then I am sure JKR would give
Harry the Golden mean spiral which is the ideal geometrical
representation of the golden mean. It is long elegant graduating coil
that looks something like the graceful arc of a particularly ornate
feather quill to me. 

See a picture of the golden mean spiral here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

NB Scroll down.

The Golden mean spiral is strongly associated with Love, and I think
that it will, like the coils of the creature are used to represent
Voldemorts Conciousness, be used to represent Harry's conciousness.

The golden mean spiral can be derived from the golden number Phi which
is an amazing number, When you square it, it equals 1 + itself, and
when you cube it, it equals 1 + 2 * itself and so on through all the
powers. Phi is approximately 1.6 or otherwise approximated by half of
one plus the square root of five. The list of Phi phenomenon is
endless and I recommend googling it. To be frank with you, there is
not much left in the natural world that hasn't been proven to have
some relationship with phi, even the human heartbeat follows a Phi
sequence! Hence for many thousands of years Phi has been associated
with the very conciousness of life.

** Aside -Now this is where I *do* think the books allude to the
mythical mathematics of conciousness because I am quite sure Phi is
(deliberately or inadvertently?) represented by:  Harry + The
hor*crux*es(five)/Voldie & Nagini. 

 
So my theory is this -
I submit that JKR has in mind a concept similar to the mathematical
behaviour of PHI for the power of the whole untarnished soul in the
Potterverse. And that it will echo the ability of the Phoenix in the
Potterverse to carry enormously heavy loads. This will relate to the
power of Harry's heart - to the Golden mean spiral which is Love. 

It could relate metaphorically or JKR could have in mind direct plot
implications that describe the Harry's conciousness in a way that will
echo Phi, or we could see a little of both.

AS usual I am hedging my bets on both and I would then assume that it
means -
1. if Harry uses the power of possession on Voldemort he will
essentially be One plus Voldemort IOW his whole being will be involved
in the possession.  
2. Harry will be able to carry impossible loads in his conciousness
(Phoenix conciousness). IOW he might be able to carry physical things
(two way mirror?) in and out of the veil, or he could possibly possess
more than one being at a time.
3. It will be his heart/Love that makes this possible and this will be
explained directly in the book.

Steve said above that it makes no sense for one corporeal being to
possess another and both Carol and Steve are curious as to what
happens to the body of the possessor. One other amazing thing about
PHI is its resonant recursion. In other words it copies *itself*
indefinitely (Phi proportions are found in the DNA helix). If JKR has
developed her concept of WW conciousness and being based on principles
that are mathematically supported by PHI, the the conciousness of the
possessor can be said to be the infinitessimal source of their entire
being. It can be reduced back to the singular point (like Phi) and
then 'remade' effortlessly by the natural recursion of the original
source. Or IOW the whole possessor can become so small a thing that it
could occupy something else, and snap back to being a complete
body/mind/soul creation easily. Phi recursion is used to explain
vortexes and can be shown to both invert and grow, each just as
naturally and effortlessly as each other.

Of course this could all be way off the mark, but I thought it was
worth passing along.

Valky











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