The Iron Fist of Will - body/body or body/spirit
M. Thitathan
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Sat Nov 5 20:40:19 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 142534
Ceridwen wrote:
"LV had no body then. LV was nothing but the remnants of his soul (&spirit?) left to him after GH. The first body we see is the ugly fetus in GoF. His essence (one of the definitions of 'being') was occupying Quirrel's body like a cheap motel. And, he trashed the place before he left.
If LV was occupying Quirrel as body and soul, not just as essence, then what happened to the LV body after Quirrel's demise? Why couldn't he be captured? He would have been at least as vulnerable as Fetus!Mort, probably even worse off. If he had a body, he could have been destroyed then, before he grew stronger. But if he was merely vapor once Quirrel was dead, if his soul part was released from Quirrel's body, then it would have been both invisible, and incapable of being captured." <snip>
CH3ed now:
I think what was left of LV after GH (as we saw him briefly when he left Quirrell in PS/SS) was his 'home piece soul', which might be different from other soul pieces in the horcruxes (for one thing the home soul is immortal as long as there are at least one horcrux intact). LV's body was destroyed.
I don't know what that snakish fetus that LV was occupying in GoF was, and I wonder if the 'reborn body' from the graveyard scene is like other human bodies since LV was able to possess Harry's body at MoM. Maybe he is now something like the Nazguls from LotR? Neither living nor dead? But not exactly like them since they are invisible and needed their hoods to give them forms for people to see. That might explain how LV's body 'disappears' when he possesses others (I think LV was there at the MoM and took Bella and disapparated rather than being somewhere else. I don't recall reading anything about people not being able to apparate inside the Ministry (after all Arthur Weasley does that when he goes to work).
So far it seems to me LV is about the only one that has the ability to possess other people and animals (Quirell, that snakish fetus, Nagini, Harry), while Harry could only 'get inside' LV's head. I don't know if LV was able to do that before his body died at GH. But now it seems that LV, even in his new 'body', can possess others who don't have 'connection' with him. Harry; on the other hand, can only get inside LV's head because of the scar connection. Maybe it is the multiple horcruxes effect or maybe that new body obtained in the graveyard scene was not totally equivalent of normal?
CH3ed
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