"That awful boy" (Was: Comparing Lupin and Harry )

[colebiancardi]

No: HPFGUIDX 142857

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Ceridwen" <ceridwennight at h...> 
wrote:
> > Jen:
> > 2) Sirius (colebiancardi's suggestion)--Hmm, never considered 
> > Sirius. He probably *would* qualify as completely 'awful' to 
> > Petunia! Now the question is would he try to charm her or tease 
her 
> > for being so priggish? The downside of Sirius is he was so 
closely 
> > tied with James, it's hard to picture him going home with Lily 
> > without James attached at the hip. And if James was there, we 
have 
> > no need for mystery, right?!?
> 
> Ceridwen:
> I doubt it was Sirius as well.  Where Sirius goes, there goes 
James.  
> Unless James had another commitment (family stuff, wedding, 
funeral) 
> and Sirius was at loose ends?  He, and James too, I think, would be 
> the type to carelessly bandy magic about, tease Petunia for any 
> number of things, and devil her with his magic until she hated him 
> and thought he was awful.  Something like the twins with Dudley.  
Not 
> mean-spirited, but awful nonetheless.
> 
> 

Sirius did live with James's family after the age of 16.  I mentioned 
the possibility of Sirius, because I could see both James & Sirius 
going to Lily's for a holiday, as I can't see Sirius hanging out with 
James's parents by himself.  It could have been a conversation that 
Sirius had with Lily when James was in the bathroom or something....I 
mean, we see Hermione & Harry alone talking, yet it is Ron she likes 
as a boyfriend, not Harry.  So, I don't think it a stretch to have 
Sirius having a bit of conversation with Lily outside of James's 
presence.

But I still think it is James.  Petunia loathed him - I think she 
felt that "awful boy" comment was enough - should she had said "that 
awful boy, who was to be your father" instead?  

I don't think it is Snape(could be wrong).  For the reasons I stated 
in post http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/142821
snipping part of it here:

I'm wondering how old Lily was when she brought home this "nasty
boy"? Was she around 11 or 12? I cannot see her doing this at an
older age, after the pensive memory in OotP. Also, if she brought
Snape home over the holidays for a visit, don't you think that James
or Sirius would have noticed that? Hogwarts isn't a small school,
but James seems to have liked Lily for a while. In fact, if Lily,
as a Griffidor, had a close, friendly relationship with Snape, a
Slytherin, when they were first starting out at Hogwarts, wouldn't
that have been noticed? In Harry's times, and also based on the
MMWP's friendship, seems like that close friendships, ones where you
would invite them home for the holidays, would be noticed and be
common knowledge amongst that boy(James) who really liked Lily - he
would have found out everything there is to know about her, don't you
think?


colebiancardi