Power vs. Trust (was:The Possibilities of Grey Snape...)

lucianam73 lucianam73 at yahoo.com.br
Thu Nov 17 19:16:34 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 143142

> >Lupinlore
> <snip>
> >Or because Our Lord and Savior Severus
> >Snape has, by definition, only Harry's best interests at heart
> >and therefore HIS Unforgivables are perfectly... well...
> >forgivable?
> 
> Orna:
> 
> It doesn't seem forgivable for anyone, and actually there seems to 
be 
> quite a consensus between ESE!Snape-fans and DDM!Snape-fans, 
including 
> Grey-Snape-fans, that Snape isn't going to survive this way or the 
> other. My understanding of this is that his AK is just 
unforgivable, 
> in the sense, that nobody can morally or psychologically imagine 
> him "living happily after". 

Lucianam:

There's no denying AK is 'unforgivable', since it is classified as 
such in canon. I'm not sure its unforgivability is absolute, though. 
Sure, we have three horrible curses that will get you a life-long 
sentence in Azkaban, but notice they won't get you a death sentence. 
Wizarding law won't torture you to madness either, in case that was 
the crime you committed. 

These were perhaps ridiculous examples as not all fans might be 
expecting eye-for-an-eye punishment for Snape.  I'm just saying that 
in the very application of the Law there is some degree of 
forgiveness already. So why shouldn't there be hope for anything 
else than death for Snape? 

I agree with you, though, on happy ever after Snape. IMO, Not Gonna 
Happen! JKR has ruthlessly punished everybody's flaws until now. I 
don't see why she would spare Snape, who is filled with 
imperfections to the brim and has a dead Hogwarts headmaster to 
answer for.

Between the possibilities of Surviving Snape and Forced to Live with 
Remorse Snape, JKR might very well choose life for him, perhaps in 
Azkaban. Maybe it won't be so freakishly unbearable now the 
Dementors no longer guard it, so it wouldn't be too sadistic of JKR 
to write that ending (my opinion).

As for Snape being good, bad or grey... In fact Snape threads 
threaten me, not because of the posters which are great (Snape seems 
to bring about fantastic posts, more than any other topics 
here!!!) but Snape himself scares the living daylights out of me. I 
love the guy and sometimes fear I totally misread him. He's got me 
completely baffled and bewitched. Er. That probably means all my 
Snape-opinions are in great danger of being wrong.

Anyway, I agree with the people who think it's too late for JKR to 
effectively pull Good Snape now. I wish I remembered the posts and 
posters, but basically the idea is the great difficulty of writing 
something that won't sound like 'Hey, remember all those questions 
Bellatrix asked me in Spinner's end? I lied!'. Or a huge chapter 
going through each and every one of those questions again, giving a 
different explanation that would show Snape in a non-Voldemort's 
partisan light. If she manages to write something other than that, 
frankly I think it will have to take up chapters and chapters of 
book 7, because then she would have to show Snape (or other 
characters) doing things that would take the reader's mind back to 
Chapter 2 of HBP and make the reader see that Snape was lying to 
Bellatrix. 

Of course I'm not writing the HP books so those are just my partial-
view hindered thoughts. Perhaps the author, who has access to the 
complete and unabridged picture, has figured out a way to wriggle 
out of this hole years before she wrote Chapter 2 of HBP (until I 
see her doing the actual wriggling out, I'll think of that Chapter 
as 'How JKR, in a heavy-handed and just a bit tiresome way, pinned a 
Villain's badge to Snape's robes').

And don't forget! I'm bewitched by Snape, therefore I must be wrong! 
Bet your money on DDM!Snape.

Not seriously, Lucianam







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