Childhood values v Adulthood values in Potterverse WAS: Re: Power vs. Trust

[M.Clifford]

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> > Hickengruendler:
> > 
> > Maybe I'm just dense, but I'm not sure in which danger the 
> > villagers exactly where? Sure, Lupin was a werewolf, but he was 
> > locked in the Shrieking Shack, or am I missing something? 

> Sydney:
> The danger was when he LEFT the Shrieking Shack under the dubious
> stewardship of the Marauders. 


Valky:
Oooh - Valk Polishes her In Defense of James Shield - Dubious? Could
you please elaborate on that adjective. it just caught my eye and I
couldn't in good conscience leave it's interpretation wholly to
variable discretion. :)




Sydney:
> In PoA, Lupin states pretty clearly
> that they were 'close calls, many of them' when he nearly attacked
> somebody when they were running around, and that he shudders to 
> think now what could have happened.  

Valky:
Oh but that's exactly the point, *Remus* can only imagine what might
have happened. The Stag and the Dog were far more compos mentis than
him, it's to *their* credit that nothing did happen.

Sorry, Sydney, I do not want to assume that by 'dubious' you imply
that James and Sirius were uncaring in nature, blanketly drawn from
the pensieve scene, it's just that I have seen that assumption many
times before. 



Sydney:
> Dagnabit... someone must have the
> quotage, but he certainly says that they were reckless and heedless 
> of the danger to other people.  I'd equate it with drunk driving.

Valky:
I really disagree with the analogy of Drunk Driving. You see we have
close calls in canon according to Remus, obviously not the kind of
things that a teenage werewolf can hold himself back from turning into
all out disasters. It's a bit of a push to call James and Sirius
heedless of the danger that they put other peole in when it's fairly
clear they must have heeded it or else who kept the close calls in
reign? I understand comparing it to Drunk Driving to the point that J
and S were getting a high from their experience, but OTOH just as
driving is a basically dangerous activity not to be undertaken in a
comprimised state hence the consensus that drunk driving is heedless
and uncaring of public safety, the werewolf is fundamentally a
dangerous thing and I don't see J and S trying to handle him while
they were not equipped to so I don't see the consensus that they were
uncaring. 

My objection is not essentially with the label of reckless for J and
S, because they *were* reckless, but with the flow on effect coming
from it that labels them on the scale closer to indictable for
heartlessness. I just don't think that's applicable at all.

Valky