Childhood values v Adulthood values in Potterverse WAS: Re: Power vs. Trust

[zgirnius]

No: HPFGUIDX 143167


> Alla:
> 
> On that point we just have to agree to disagree, I suppose, because 
> it is the case of different interpretation of the same canon. I 
don't 
> have new canon to add, I just think that being with ill friend and 
> helping him if not totally be sane during transformations, but make 
> it easier for him is noble. They did not set up to endanger 
> villagers, they just did not think it through, IMO.
> 
> As I said I have nothing to add to this point. :-)

zgirnius:
Since I'm newly posting to this discussion, I will add my two 
cents... Keeping their sick friend company to help him feel better 
was of course laudable, I approved 100%. They could do that just fine 
inside the Shrieking Shack, though. When they all went out, though, 
it was to have fun. Also understandable, but more questionable, IMO. 
Definitely indicative of a certain thoughtlessness of the danger to 
others. Adult Lupin is still uncomfortable with that, as I recall 
(where did my copy of PoA run off to?)

> > Pippin:
> > He was surprised  because he knew he was the
> > intended victim and he knew he wasn't dead.  
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Could you point me to the quote, please?

Unless DD is lying to Draco, it is all over the conversation they 
have on the tower. To pick a sample quote, "You have been trying, 
with increasing desperation, to kill me all year." (p. 585 US 
Edition). Later (p. 587-588), "Yeah, well, you still didn't realize 
who was behind that stuff, did you?" sneered Malfoy..."as a matter of 
fact, I did", said Dumbledore. "I was sure it was you."

I believe DD is telling the truth here. Which means Harry knew Draco 
was generically up to no good (true). While DD knew, on the other 
hand, that he himself was the target of an assassination plot by 
Draco (rather more specific knowledge). Neither one appears to have 
had much success formulating an effective plan to act on their 
knowledge. Both were surprised, I would say, to find Death Eaters at 
Hogwarts.