The two versions of the Prophecy
Ceridwen
ceridwennight at hotmail.com
Fri Nov 18 03:19:15 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 143174
Carol:
> I'd be interested in hearing how various people reconcile the two
> versions, regardless of what flavor Snape they prefer. (Grape!Snape,
> anyone? ;-) )
Ceridwen:
I thought about it, and came up with several different ideas. I
think the one that most closely fits both Dumbledore's and
Trelawney's recollections of events would be that Snape was outside
the door when Trelawney began to give her prophecy, and was caught by
Aberforth, and the ensuing argument made it impossible for Snape to
hear the rest. Dumbledore heard the commotion; Trelawney didn't
because she was in a trance. As soon as Dumbledore was certain she
was finished, he Alohamora'd the door so there stood Aberforth and
Snape just as Trelawney is regaining her bearings. Aberforth tells
Dumbledore he found Snape eavesdropping, then drags him away, as he
would have anyway if the door hadn't been opened.
But that doesn't explain the Pop-Up!Trelawney in the Pensieve.
Before HBP, I read some thoughts that Harry is using the Pensieve
wrong, and that the Pop-Up! version is the correct way to do it. But
since HBP, we see that Dumbledore uses the Pensieve the same way,
when he wants Harry to see everything going on. The only time I can
see where a Pop-Up! is the only course is when two or more thoughts
are being blended to form an answer or a more in-depth analysis (the
two snakes).
So, the conclusion I came to is that Dumbledore didn't want Harry to
see anything but Trelawney giving the prophecy. He didn't want Harry
to see the room, the scene outside the windows (snow? dead of
night?), he didn't want him to see *anything else*.
I can get at least two reasons for that. There are probably more.
One: Dumbledore wants Harry to focus on the prophecy to the exclusion
of all else, so he 'spotlights' it; Two: Dumbledore doesn't want
Harry to see something in the room for whatever reason.
I'm tending toward number two. But, if it was Snape in the room, or
the door opening immediately afterwards to reveal him, if Snape's
entry happened so quickly on the heels of the prophecy that
Dumbledore didn't think he could get Harry out of the Pensieve in
time to avoid that revelation, if someone else was present (now
deceased, as Dumbledore said only the two people in the Weasleys'
shed knew the whole prophecy), or something else entirely (bad choice
of robes for DD? ;) ) I just don't know and won't try to figure out,
at least not today.
Still, the fact that DD (IMO) didn't want Harry to see something in
the room, or soon to enter the room, means that there's probably more
going on than my simple solution given above.
Ceridwen.
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