Snape-the Hero -- Snape-the Abuser

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No: HPFGUIDX 143312

> Pippin:
> Um, where are you getting all this? Canon is very clear about what 
happened.
> Snape  fled because Buckbeak chased him off. Then --
> " Harry struggled to his feet, hoping to give chase again, but 
even as his 
> fingers fumbled in the grass, discarding twigs, he knew it would 
be too
> late, and sure enough, by the time he had located his wand, he 
turned
> only to see the hippogriff circling the gates. Snape had managed to
> Disapparate just beyond the school's boundaries."
> 
> Harry is thinking only of chasing Snape, not rescuing Fang, and in 
fact
> it is Hagrid who rescued the dog, not Harry.  


Alla:

I am not sure I agree with your conclusion, Pippin. I mean, yes, 
Hagrid saved Fang, but the continuation of the quote IMO that Harry 
was at least thinking of rescuing Fang and probably Hagrid too.

"Hagrid," muttered Harry, still dazed, looking around. "HAGRID?"
He stumbled toward the burning house as an enormous figure emerged 
from out the flames carrying Fang on his back. With the cry of 
thankfullness, Harry sank to his knees; he was shaking in every 
limb, his body ached all over, and his breath came in painful stabs.

"Yeh all righ', Harry? Yeh all righ'? Speak ter me, Harry..."
Hagrid's huge, hairy face was swimming above Harry, blocking out the 
stars. Harry could smell burnt wood and dog's hair; he put out a 
hand and felt Fang's reassuringly warm and alive body quivering 
beside him.

"I'm all right," panted Harry, "Are you?" - p.605.


So, Harry IS approaching the burning house,even if he does it after 
Snape fled. Harry is describing Fang's body as "reassuringly warm 
and alive", which tells me that he paid attention to Fang being in 
danger and happy that he is alive.



Pippin: 
> If Snape deserves karmic punishment for endangering Harry with his
> sarcasm and malice, even if Harry didn't come to harm through 
them, 
> then shouldn't Lupin and his pals suffer karmic punishment also 
for 
> endangering the innocent villagers of Hogsmead? The Marauders 
can't be 
> excused for their youth if the outings lasted into their seventh 
year when 
> they were adults. 


Alla:

Um, Marauders could be excused if JKR agrees with me that their 
actions do not deserve punishment in the first place, you know. :-)
I mean their intentions, not the executions of those intentions.

But I think they ARE being punished karmically, I am just not quite 
sure for which actions yet.

For example - surely Sirius going to Azkaban is a perfect example of 
karmic punishment, no?

As you know, I am not buying that only Marauders bullied Snape in 
scholl and he did nothing to them, BUT they did bully Snape and if 
at the end we will indeed learn that Snape was innocent all the time 
and Marauders were the guilty parties all the time, then I think 
Sirius was punished karmically for that.

Same with Remus - hardly able to find a paying job seems like a VERY 
harsh punishment to me.

JMO,

Alla