CHAPDISC: HBP4, Horace Slughorn
Caius Marcius
coriolan at worldnet.att.net
Tue Nov 22 12:05:40 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 143340
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214"
<dumbledore11214 at y...> wrote:
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> 2. When Albus says, "Lord Voldemort has finally realized the
> dangerous access to his thoughts and feelings you have been
> enjoying," does he mean that in OOP Voldemort had no idea that
Harry
> had access to his thoughts and feelings? Wasn't it necessary for
> Voldemort to know that Harry would receive the vision of Sirius in
> order for his plan to lure Harry to MoM to be successful? In other
> words, I thought that Voldemort was aware of the connection during
> OOP. Are we supposed to think that he was not? How does Dumbledore
> know that Voldemort is now employing Occlumency against Harry?
Snape gives us the particulars during Harry's first Occlumency lesson
in OOP Chap. 24
'It appears that the Dark Lord has been unaware of the connection
between you and himself until very recently. Up till now it seems
that you have been experiencing his emotions, and sharing his
thoughts, without his being any the wiser. However, the vision you
had shortly before Christmas -'
The one with the snake and Mr Weasley?'
'Do not interrupt me, Potter,' said Snape in a dangerous voice. 'As I
was saying, the vision you had shortly before Christmas represented
such a powerful incursion upon the Dark Lord's thoughts -'
'I saw inside the snake's head, not his!......'
'You seem to have visited the snake's mind because that was where
the Dark Lord was at that particular moment,' snarled Snape. 'He was
possessing the snake at the time and so you dreamed you were inside
it, too.'
'And Vol he - realised I was there?'
'It seems so,' said Snape coolly.
'How do you know?' said Harry urgently. 'Is this just Professor
Dumbledore guessing, or -?....'
...'It is enough that we know,' said Snape repressively. 'The
important point is that the Dark Lord is now aware that you are
gaining access to his thoughts and feelings. He has also deduced that
the process is likely to work in reverse; that is to say, he has
realised that he might be able to access your thoughts and feelings
in return -'
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> 9. What was your very first impression of Horace Slughorn? I mean,
> particularly, if it's possible for you to recall before you read
> anything about him on the HPFGU.
I thought him a splendidly portrayed character, a great comic
monster, the quintessence of worldly corruption, a more savvy
Lockhart more interested in reflecting the limelight than revelling
in it himself. I'm struck by how many people on this list will say
things "I don't like Character X because I wouldn't like him in RL,
or he would do A,B, & C to me in RL." We should remember that a
character is sometimes deliberately designed by the author to be
somewhat disagreeable, or less than nice, or morally impure. That
says nothing about the quality of the portraiture, which should be
our main concern.
> 10. We know that Harry does not ask questions about his parents
even
> in those rare situations when he has the chance to do so. Here
Harry
> meets the man who taught his mother, who seems to like his mother
> very much and Harry is still not asking him any questions about
> Lily. What do you think about it?
Partially that Harry distrust Slughorn from the start, but partially
authorial perogative - I'm assuming that she's saving up the details
on Lily for the final book.
- CMC
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