He hates Hagrid? (Was: Re: 'Foy or Fang: Which was who Snape must protect?)

[colebiancardi]

No: HPFGUIDX 143397

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "saturniia" <saturniia at y...> 
wrote:
>
> Colebiancardi:
> > where do you get the idea that Snape holds no love for Hagrid?  
If 
> > anything, Hagrid is one of Snape's biggest cheerleaders  - and I 
> have 
> > never read anything that shows that Snape doesn't like or dislike 
> > Hagrid.  Only Lockhart(who was an idiot) and Lupin(old grudges) 
> were 
> > the two professors that Snape shows his dislike for.  Everyone 
> else, I 
> > think Snape just rolls with it.
> 
> Saturniia:
> I never meant to imply Snape dislikes Hagrid, I merely meant that 
he 
> doesn't like him.  I'm not arguing semantics here; I honestly 
> believe the two terms are different.  Like you said, "Snape just 
> rolls with it", and to do that one needs either a high level of 
> maturity or, if that is not present, apathy.  His holding on to a 
> decades-old grudge and taking it out on the original target's child 
> does not speak of maturity, and yes, everyone has their hot-button 
> issues, but if it didn't hurt, one wouldn't react.  Therefore, I 
> cast my vote for apathy.
> 

In the RW, I know that there are many people I work with that I don't 
like or dislike - I deal with them as professionals.  I have worked 
with them for many years.  I would not call that apathy.  I would 
call that dealing with people that you work with in a professional 
manner.  It isn't even indifference.  There are people I work with 
that I really like & care for as friends and there are people I work 
with that I don't like at all.  But the majority of them, I have no 
opinion on.   

I would say calling Snape's attitude as being apathy as being a tad 
harsh.  I think that most people who work probably have work friends, 
work foes and those that are in the inbetween area.

> I'll argue against the idea that Hagrid being one of Snape's 
biggest 
> cheerleaders is because of Snape himself; there's no proof.  He's 
> one of Dumbledore's biggest cheerleaders, so if Dumbledore trusts 
> Snape, he will, too.  Beyond that, Snape's just a useful guy, and 
> he's been a teacher at Hogwarts for what?  Fifteen years as of HBP, 
> I believe.  Spending eight months a year for a decade and a half 
> taking your meals with a person who doesn't give you a reason to 
> hate him, who your boss and mentor trusts, is enough to make almost 
> anyone like a man.  A kind soul like Hagrid would be especially 
> susceptable.

Well, Snape is a spy - if he is DDM!Snape, he couldn't be all cozy 
and friendly to Hagrid, because if Snape was very exposed by 
Voldemort as double-agent, all those that Snape cares about would 
die.  Also, if Evil!Snape, he does have to keep up appearances, 
doesn't he?  Being a friendly guy is not in Snape's nature.  period.  
It is OOC for him.  As far as my comment on Hagrid being Snape's 
biggest cheerleader, sure it is because DD trusts Snape & Hagrid 
trusts DD. But Hagrid does defend Snape more than any other 
character - he is always telling Harry that Harry is wrong about 
Snape and doesn't want Harry to jump to conclusions about Snape. 

Don't forget - Snape has acted a part the last 16 years or so. We 
just don't which part it is :-)

Back to the RL, I respect my boss - I like my boss - I would say my 
boss & I are friends(I was invited to his wedding, we go boating in 
the summer, etc).  My boss is also friends with another co-worker 
whom I dislike - she is rubs me the wrong way.  However, she isn't 
evil or anything, I am sure she is a kind soul.  Does that make ME 
suspectable, because I don't like my boss's friend?   Just because 
Snape makes no outward gestures of friendship to Hagrid doesn't mean 
that he is suspect of some *evilness*.  There are much greater signs 
than that.  Is Trewlany suspect because I don't see her hob-nobbing 
with Hagrid in the novels.


colebiancardi
(I think Snape is a cat person, but I can't prove it :-) )