locket horcrux

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 143403

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "alora67" <chrisnlorrie at y...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Diana" <LydiiaAdleida at a...> 
> wrote:
> > .... My husband, ..., mentioned the locket they discovered
> > cleaning the cupboard as the possible one [the Locket] they
> > had been  looking for. 

bboyminn:

Indeed that very thought has occurred to many of us. I believe it is
referred to as 'a heavy locket that no one could open'. One could
assume that Regulus (RAB or who ever) had it on his person when he was
killed and it was returned to the family amoung his personal
possessions. ALternately, he hid it at home before setting out on some
errand, and was later killed. 

Either way, JKR has suggested that Regulus Black would be a good guess
for the RAB character who wrote the note that accompanied the
fake!locket. She didn't confirm it, but merely suggested that it would
be a good guess. So, that creates a potential link between RAB and
Regulus Black and therefore to the locket, and since we have seen a
very distinctive locket at the Black Manor, the connection would
appear complete.

We do know that by all logic and reason the Horcrux task set for Harry
is nearly impossible; Harry even acknowledges as much. So, I can only
assume that we will need some short cuts to finding and destroying
them. The problem is, the Locket and many other Black Family items
were simply trashed by Sirius while they worked to clean the Black
house. Can something be returned from the trash, if it was vanished -
can it be unvanished, or perhaps it is one item that Kreacher managed
to steal and hid away. How willingly will Kreacher give up this item
or even acknowledge its existance. Enquiring minds want to know.


> > Diana continues:
>
> > ... was Harry possibly an unintentional horcrux due to his
> > destruction of Voldemort when he was small? This may explain
> > a bit why Voldemort needed Harry, also he may have been able
> > to take back that portion of his soul when he  was reanimated
> > at the end of GOF. any thoughts?
> > Diana.
> 
> 
> Diana,
> 
> that's very interesting, I hadn't thought of that.  Are you saying 
> that if Harry was a horcrux that since Voldemort is "back", that's 
> one less he needs to destroy?  I get easily confused sometimes, so 
> thanks for explaining it to me.  
> 
> Alora
>

bboyminn:

While the idea of Harry being a Horcrux has certainly occurred to all
of us, and I believe it is a supposition that is very easy to make,
I'm not convinced it is true. The act of killing does not create a
Horcrux, and since Dumbledore seems to have given this a great deal of
thought and seems to have disgarded or at least discounted the
possibility, I don't put to much stock in it.

However, you have come up with what I think is a new and innovative
approach to the idea. If, by some highly unlikely circumstance, Harry
was a Horcrux, was Voldemort's soul transfer back into him when he
used Harry blood as part of his rebirthing ceremony? Or perhaps, that
bit of Voldemort's soul has been PARTLY transferred back to Voldemort
so that, in a sense, Harry and Voldemort are sharing the bit of the soul.

Now we must ponder the potential consequences of such an action. If
the soul bit was transfer back to its owner, then Harry has one less
Horcrux to worry about, unfortunately, Harry doesn't know this so he
will certainly worry about it. If by chance he is forced into a
confrontation with Voldemort before he is ready, then perhaps Harry
will indeed be able to defeat him. One problem I see with this is WHO
will explain it to Harry after the fact, it seems like a detail that
someone would indeed have to explain so the readers will understand
what happened. 

In the case, of Voldemort and Harry now sharing the soul-bit, that
complicates things both for Harry and for the readers. Does that mean
Voldemort is now vulnerable because he has the soul-bit or is he
protected because Harry has it? Could this be the reason why both
Harry and Voldemort have to die, and how can they BOTH die in a way
that assures that they die at the same time? Perhaps we are back to my
theory of Harry taking Voldemort through the Veiled Archway.

Just a few thought.

STeve/bboyminn