PoA - Snape knew?

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--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "ginny343" <ginny343 at y...> wrote:
>
> I had a thought this morning and although I have not thought it 
> completely through, I decided to post it.
> 
> We know from PoA that the DEs knew that Peter was a spy.  
> 
> "You've been hiding from Voldemort's old supporters . . . Sounds like 
> they think the double-crosser double-crossed them . . . " (Am. ver. p. 
> 368)
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> That given, I am a little confused about why Sirius was believed to be 
> a spy. 

Whiz:  Did the DEs think that Sirius was the spy?  Or was it only the Order?  I think that somewhere, the point was made that the DEs didn't all know who all the other DEs were.  

Ginny343:
> Seems to me that Snape must have known that Sirius was 
> innocent.  Or at the very least, Snape knew Peter had been the 
> betrayer, not Sirius.  

Whiz:  There's no doubt in my mind.  My theory is that Snape used Pettigrew to get James killed and frame Sirius.    Snape is on a campaign to eliminate the marauders, and by the end of Voldemort's first rampage, he was doing pretty well.  James was dead, Sirius was in Azkaban and Remus was an outcast.  Pettigrew was too frightened to show his face, so Snape had the run of Hogwarts under Dumbledore's protection.  Such a deal.

Ginny343:
> Although I am really hoping to see a turn for the good in Snape in the 
> 7th book, I am a little disappointed to think that Snape knew about 
> Peter, and yet the teachers in the school believed Peter to be 
> innocent. Did Snape tell DD otherwise and DD kept this information to  himself? Or did Snape not share this information because he wanted 
> Sirius to be killed/dementor-kissed?  

Whiz: Exactly.  If you read GoF carefully, Snape knew that Fake Moody was Barty Crouch Jr and he didn't tell Dumbledore about that either.  Snape ran interference for Crouch jr to murder his father, making him an accomplice to the murder, and by his silence, helped Crouch jr. turn Harry over to the DL.  I see no hope of Snape's redemption anywhere.

Ginny343:
> If Snape withheld this  information, surely DD figured out Snape 
 > knew about Peter . . . And even if Snape told DD and DD kept the info
 > to himself . . . after all of what happened in PoA, Snape should have
 > told the minister that Black was not the one who got James and Lily
 > killed.  Why didn't he?
> 
> Any ideas?   

Whiz: Ohyes!  Lots of ideas.  Snape is amazing!  But in a nutshell, I think Snape confunded Trelawney to produce both of her "prophesies" that his main motive is to destroy the marauders as well as both Dumbledore and Voldemort and return the control of the magical world to purebloods, as Slytherin desired.  

The reason we can't figure out which side Snape is on is because he's on neither.  He's still on Slytherin's old agenda, and would have been seduced by the DL when he was promoting that same political agenda.  But Voldemort doublecrossed the purebloods when he began to take power for himself instead, and there has been an underground of purebloods including Snape, Malfoy and Fudge and who knows who else, who are working to that specific end.  As a result, they count both Dumbledore and Voldemort their enemies.






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