PoA - Snape knew?/Who is the real dark character in the series?

[dumbledore11214]

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> Carol responds:
<SNIP>
>  Snape also had the opportunity to murder Remus Lupin, or
> expose him before he endangered any students, by "accidentally"
> messing up the potion. Instead, "he made it, and he made it
> perfectly," to quote Lupin in HBP.

Alla:

Did he REALLY have the opportunity to poison Remus right under the 
Dumbledore's nose? Of course I will be the first to argue that 
Dumbledore made some major mistakes when it comes to "psychology", 
but would he fail to realize who did it, if Remus would have been 
found poisoned in his rooms?

I think Snape valued his job too much to risk it. Shrieking Shack on 
the other hand is totally different story. Here he has an opportunity 
to silence Remus forever and to be everybody's hero, IMO.



> Carol responds:
> The truth about Lupin would have come out in any case. <SNIP>. It
> was his *duty* to resign, as I'm sure DD would have reminded him.
> (Besides, he was a victim of the DADA curse. You teach that class, 
you
>  lose your job--or worse. Voldemort has made sure of that.)

Alla:

It does not matter ( to me of course) whether truth about Lupin would 
have come out in any event or not and I am not sure that it was his 
DUTY to resign. Moral duty, maybe, legal - not so sure. In any event, 
as far as I can remember it was NOT Snape's duty to talk about Remus' 
condition. In fact, I won't be surprised if he received some major 
tongue lashing from Dumbledore for that.

Rather long time ago I read a very interesting speculation ( not on 
this site) that because of Snape's behavior in PoA, Dumbledore did 
not trust him as much as he used to ( not personally, but to provide 
safety of the school). Remember that in CoS, PoA, Snape often patrols 
the grounds. Was he doing it in GoF? I cannot remember. I think 
Dumbledore saw how much Snape's grudge could get the best of him 
still and that was one of the reasons why he summoned Moody to the 
school.

Just speculating here of course.

Again, of course Remus became the victim of the curse, but I am not 
sure I buy that the  curse works in that great details - namely that 
curse forced Snape to reveal his condition





> Carol responds:
> Surely Wormtail, who was with Voldemort for a full year before
> restoring him, would have informed Voldemort of the details of his
> escape, including Lupin's transformation into a werewolf and Black's
> Animagus form. 

Alla:

Maybe, maybe not. We don't hear Wormtail telling us that he provided 
information about Sirius, we DO hear about it from Snape.

Carol:
And Voldemort would already know that they had both
> been members of the Order of the Phoenix. Neither Snape nor Kreacher
> can reveal the location of the headquarters of the Order, but 
Kreacher
> provides the details about Black's relationship with Harry. (That's
> canon. Snape going to the Malfoys is speculation.)

Alla:

Yes, as I stated several times in my previous post - it WAS mostly 
speculative, but even though Snape going to Malfoys is speculation, 
Snape providing information is canon. It could be a false canon or it 
could be truth for all I know. :-)


 Carol:
<SNIP>
I can't prove that I'm right, but it's
> certainly as likely that Snape was lying as that he provided any
> useful information on Black other than that provided by Pettigrew or
> Kreacher. 

Alla:

Well, of course it is just as likely. All that I am saying that the 
possibility of him telling the truth to me is just as strong, so I 
can entertain BOTH in my mind. :-)

Carol: 
<SNIP>
Lest
> we forget, it was Wormtail who betrayed the Potters and Voldemort 
who
> killed them, and neither of them has shown any trace of remorse.


Alla:

Erm... I still think that Wormtail could show some remorse in book 7 
or not, as to Voldemort - I don't expect him to show any remorse. I 
DO expect to see a lot of remorse from Snape though, if he is indeed 
a good guy for all the horror he helped to turn Harry's life into by 
telling Voldemort about prophecy if nothing else.


Of course just my opinion,

Alla