Who is the real dark character in the series?
dumbledore11214
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Fri Nov 25 18:50:53 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 143484
Colebiancardi:
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I am not sure where you read that
> I wrote that Harry won't battle Snape.
Alla:
Sorry, I probably misunderstood you saying that the end of the story
will be about Voldemort and Harry, not Harry and Snape, etc.
Colebiancardi:
> And I don't think Snape is second in command to Voldemort - I don't
> think Voldy trusts Snape all that much, but based on what followers
> Voldemort has, Snape is probably the most powerful. I think Snape,
> regardless of his true nature, better watch his step around
Voldemort
> - I don't think Voldy likes to share his limelight too much.
Alla:
I brought up "second in command" example as trying to counterargue
that Snape cannot be another Evil, that is all. I mean, do Bella,
Lestrange, etc, somehow become less evil just because Voldie is the
boss? Just wondering here.
> > Alla:
> >
> > Huh? You are calling witnessing the murder of Dumbledore and
desire
> > to get Snape because of that a "teenage grudge"?
> >
Colebiancardi:
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Do
> you really think that it would matter that he got Snape or not at
this
> point? Was it going to bring Dumbledore back to life? Do you think
> that DD would have wanted Harry to risk all at this point & time?
The
> reason why Harry went after Snape was pure emotion and fantasy:
> "Terror tore at Harry's heart...He had to get to Dumbledore and he
had
> to catch Snape....Somehow the two things were linked...He could
> reverse what had happened if he had them both together...Dumbledore
> could not have died..." HBP, p. 598
Alla:
Erm... I think that it does not matter whether Harry's hatred of
Snape goes way back. In fact I don't think it goes THAT back. Before
end of OOP I don't remember Harry saying that he ever HATED Snape,
but of course he hated Snape during HBP, no argument from me.
I cannot agree that ANY decent person after witnessing the murder of
his beloved mentor( Of course it is just my interpretation) right in
front of his eyes can do anything else but to try and catch the
murderer. In fact, if Harry started rationalizing his actions , I
would think that there is something very, very wrong with him.
Colebiancardi:
> Harry is not thinking clearly at this point. Not that I blame him.
> However, what happened on the tower added to the years of hatred &
> mistrust Harry has felt towards Snape, even though Dumbledore told
him
> otherwise. There was nothing to be gained by catching & killing
Snape
> other than to *avenge* the death of Dumbledore, based on what Harry
> saw on the tower.
Alla:
Well, as I said above to me it would be very weird if Harry started
to think what is to be GAINED by catching Snape at that moment. Of
course it added to the years of hatred and mistrust, Snape just
killed Dumbledore.
Colebiancardi:
> Harry is making the case against Snape not by facts, but by twisting
> the words of Dumbledore to make his case against Snape. Even if I
> believed in ESE!Snape, I would say that is dishonest of Harry and he
> will do anything to further his grudge and try to make others follow
> him down this path. I think that even you would agree that Harry's
> grudge against Snape begins a lot earlier than that night on the
> tower.
Alla:
Sorry, I disagree. Harry makes the case against Snape by facts and
the facts are he just witnessed him killing Headmaster. Could it be
that Harry has limited evidence and he would have to reevaluate his
judgment later? Of course, but right now with the evidence he has, I
completely disagree that Harry is acting to further his "grudge",
which I even disagree should be called so.
JMO,
Alla, who knows it is number four of her posts, but since she did not
do it in ages, literally, she is not going to iron her fingers too
hard. :-)
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