What is poetic justice? WAS: Re: Snape-the Hero -- Snape-the Abuser

[colebiancardi]

No: HPFGUIDX 143542

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Ceridwen" <ceridwennight at h...>
wrote:
 
> Potioncat:
> > Eileen had enough contact with the Muggle world to meet and marry a 
> > Muggle. Yet, little Severus will arrive at Hogwarts knowing more 
> > curses than most 7th years. Lots of gaps here. Of course, one could 
> > practice Dark Magic without being a Pureblood.
> 
> Ceridwen:
> Eileen could have friends who are into the Dark Arts, as well as 
> family who may well be.  Grandfathers often take grandsons and teach 
> them things like fishing or woodworking, no reason why Grandpa Prince 
> doesn't take a young Severus on his knee and teach him Dark Magic.  
> And, I suppose it would be a funny party gag to some friends, or even 
> to Eileen herself, to have a diminutive wizard performing Dark spells 
> at a Wizarding party.
> 

colebiancardi:
One of the ideas I had on why little Severus knew so much about the
dark arts when he started Hogwarts was that Eileen taught him, but not
because she was a Voldemort supporter.  She went to school with
Riddle, perhaps was in the same house(we don't know what house she was
sorted in - another mystery).  She would have seen his rise to power
and the way he fought those who opposed him.  My thought is that she
taught her son not only to defend himself against the dark arts -
which would explain why he knew so much about them - but also to use
them - as a means to fight fire with fire, if he was ever attacked.

The scene of the pensive could be misleading - if that is Tobias &
Eileen fighting, who knows what they were fighting about?  Could have
been the burnt dinner or something - highly doubtful.  Perhaps it was
that little Severus did some dark magic at a tender age and Tobias is
fighting over that with Eileen.  At any rate, I don't know if that
scene means that Eileen or Snape were ever abused by Tobias.  Snape
makes no mention of his mother or father, of course that would give
too much away.  However, we do not see him, outside of the calling
Lily a mudblood, that today's grown-up Snape is a pureblood supporter
or that he feels that half-bloods should not be taught in the
wizarding ways.  That would be hypocritical of him, as he is a
half-blood himself.  

JKR once stated that Snape was loved by someone - it could be
Dumbledore, but I like the idea that his mother loved him.  Or it
could be both.  It would be interesting to find out what happened to
his parents, which I don't believe it is the librarian, nor do I
believe that Flitch is his dad either.  I wonder if they were killed
or died tragically - come on Hermione, keep digging thru the old
copies of the Prophet! - and Snape found himself alone and that is why
he joined Voldemort initially - he had no friends other than those who
were in slytherian and they joined up.  

but as always, this is JMHO.

colebiancardi