Did Snape kil DD? WAS: Re: PoA - Snape knew?/

[juli17 at aol.com]

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> Bart:
>     Did he kill Dumbledore? Was  Dumbledore's hand unhealable 
because it was 
> magically damaged, or  was it unhealable because he could no longer 
heal 
> from injuries?  From (S/P)S, Chapter 8: "I can teach you how to bottle 
> fame, brew  glory, even stopper death"
> 


Lupinlore:
Yes, if Snape's spell was the proximate cause of of DD's  death, he not 
only killed Dumbledore, he murdered him in every legal and  moral 
sense.  If DD was in fact dying it would not matter in any way,  shape, 
form, or fashion.  If the situation was hopeless with regard to  tactics 
it would not matter in any way, shape, form, or fashion.  If DD  
asked/begged/ordered Snape to kill him it would not matter in any way,  
shape, form, or fashion.

Now, if, as has been theorized by some, what  happened was an elaborate 
ruse that went south in a catastrophic way, then  Snape would have some 
workable defense.  But that is the only situation  in which Snape would 
have a defense.






Julie:
This is not strictly true, even in the Real World. Mitigating  circumstances
do play in role, both in the decision on what charges to bring against  the
accused, and in the eventual punishment phase. For instance,  euthanasia
is a defense in some states in the U.S. that has resulted in  dismissal
of all charges. 
 
And we have no clue about the law in the WW. It may be that a 
euthanasia type defense could be valid. It also may be that a wizard
who is ordered to do something, even including killing, could be
exonerated. There are binding contracts in the WW, like Unbreakable
Vow, that don't exist in the RW. 
 
And who knows what Dumbledore will have to say about Snape's act
from beyond the grave? What if he left a note saying he elicited a
binding contract/promise from Snape to kill him under certain 
circumstances (such as the circumstances on the Tower)? Or that
Snape in some other way didn't act under his own volition, but was
under Dumbledore's control (whether true or not)? 
 
None of this may be the case, but it's another example of how little
we really know about what happened on the Tower. And I'm NOT
talking about what Harry saw, but the how and the why behind
both Dumbledore's and Snape's actions before, during and after 
Dumbledore's death. 
 
Until we know those facts--and I feel very certain JKR will reveal
the how and why above--we still have too little knowledge on  which 
to judge Snape, or to postulate a just punishment, IMO. 
 
Julie 


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