Dumbledore's-death-is-a-fake-theory

[Miles]

No: HPFGUIDX 143609

Constance Vigilance wrote:
> Let's review: we have a carefully constructed fake death scene. The
> death scene is quite convincing except for the lack of one dark mark
<snip>
> At the end of the book, we have another death scene. <snip> The vast
> majority of readers believe the death scene is real. Exactly because
> of the presence of dragon's blood at Slughorn's is the reason I
> believe Dumbledore's death is faked.

Miles:
There are differences much more important than the Dark Mark. The most
important one: there was no corpse in Chapter 4. And about the dragon's blood, why should Dumbledore use it for his own faked death? It is not difficult to fake blood, no need to use Dragon's blood. We can be pretty sure, that "faking human blood" is not among the 12 uses of Dragon's blood Dumbledore and Flamel discovered...

hg_skmg wrote:
> First, the Dark Mark. <snip> Lupin assumes that Gibbon did it, but 
> if he did, it seems to leave not enough time for Rosmerta to see 
> it, Dumbledore & Harry to arrive, etc.  I wonder if he left the top 
> of the tower so quickly because he saw it was already there.

Miles:
True is, we didn't see what happened when Gibbon went to the tower. But IMO there is no reason to think that something different happened. To cast the Dark Mark is a question of seconds only, so Gibbon did have no reason to stay on top of the tower. There was no need for Rosmerta to see it before DD and Harry arrived, the only thing for her to do was using her coin to contact Draco when they arrived.

hg_skmg wrote:
> Second, I think it's more JKR's intent that Harry should "go it 
> alone" than Dumbledore's; however, CV says it in such a way that I 
> can envision Dumbledore being motivated, at least in part, to fake 
> his death for this purpose.

Miles:
I agree, that he could have had a motivation to fake his death. But I really doubt that he had the chance to do it. To fake this death scene, he would have had to anticipate not only a showdown with Deatheaters. He was surprised that they managed to come to Hogwarts. I do not think this was faked surprise, because this bunch of murderers in his school, endangering every student - no, Dumbledore would never take that kind of risk. But without knowing Deatheaters coming to Hogwarts, how could he plan the scenario on top of the tower, or some similar one?

lagattalucianese wrote:
> My personal theory is that what Snape is doing "behind the curtain" 
> is creating some sort of reverse Horcrux, that leaves the soul 
> intact, even while killing and even fragmenting the body, and 
> transfers the soul into a temporary host (Fawkes?) until the body 
> can be restored or a new body found.

Miles:
Is there any clue in canon for this? I do not see any, but I do see many clues strictly against it. E.g., Dumbledore is absolutely not afraid of death. He would never gamble with his soul just to stay alive for some time longer. And I really don't believe that Rowling comes up with a totally new concept like "reverse Horcruxes". When the soul is intact and the body dies, all she told us up to now is that this soul either leaves our world or stays here as a ghost, when the dead wizard is afraid of being dead.  And to bring in the meta killer argument: Rowling stated in interviews, that characters who die in her books are really dead and do not return.

Miles