Ghosts?
h2so3f
h2so3f at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 29 01:30:58 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 143636
nymphandoracallel wrote:
"CH3ed wrote: (unless your fear of death causes you to become a
ghost).
Is this true? Is that how you become a ghost? "
CH3ed:
Well, in "The Second War Begins" chapter of OotP Nearly Headless
Nick told Harry that :
"Wizards can leave an imprint of themselves upon the earth, to
walk palely where their living selves once trod, but very few
wizards choose that path."
and
"I was afraid of death, I chose to remain behind. I sometimes wonder
whether I oughtn't have..... Well, that is neither here nor there...
In fact, I am neither here nor there... I know nothing of the
secrets of death, Harry, for I chose my feeble imitation of life
instead. I believe learned wizards study the matter in the
Department of Mysteries --"
So I'm relying on Nick's words (tho perhaps the Unspeakables at
the DoM would know more Nick does). Also in HBP, Snape defines
ghosts as imprints of departed soul when he was covering ghosts and
inferi in class (I don't have the exact quote at the moment. A
friend is borrowing my copy of HBP). So the soul is gone but the
consciousness remains behind as an imprint, perhaps? It would not be
the same as horcrux making where a soul piece is kept separated from
the body to anchor the person to this earth.
I don't think this choice to remain behind as a ghost is made before
one is killed but afterward. Perhaps right after you die there is a
short grace period where your realize that you are moving behind the
veil, and if you are too afraid to go to that unknown world you
become a ghost?
NymphandoraCallel wrote:
"Can ghosts perform magic? What sort of powers do they have, if any,
and have there been any mentions of dark wizards who have become
ghosts and are now able to forever be in LV's army??"
CH3ed: I don't think ghost can do magic as they have neither soul
nor body. Poltergeists like Peeves seem to be different, tho. I
think JKR wrote on her site somewhere that Peeves the Poltergeist is
the spirit of chaos who was never alive to begin with and that's why
he cannot be expelled from Hogwarts. LV uses inferi (bewitched
corpses), but they are like zombies under the control of a dark
wizard. They haven't got a soul or consciousness or anything IMO. I
don't know what exactly "echos" like those that came out of LV's
wand during "Priori Incantatem" in GoF are.
:O) CH3ed is heading off to bed after his 3rd post of the day.
G'night folks!
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