[HPforGrownups] Re: Snape, Hagrid and Animals

[Magpie]

No: HPFGUIDX 143751


>> Magpie:
>>
>> Yup.  Starting with being heard by everyone, but even beyond that,
> yes.
>

a_svrn:
> There is a subtle semantic difference between being heard and being
> listened. Hagrid did no "rattle" the information; he stated it with
> the utmost clarity. Everyone who listened heard him. Those who didn't
> didn't.  Simple as that.

Magpie:

That's hardly the attitude with which to approach a class of 13-year-olds on 
dangerous animals.  I went to classes involving less-dangerous animals as a 
kid and believe me, that was not the way it went, especially since no class 
of kids or adults has everyone listening all the time.  But even if Hagrid 
was being heard, that's not the utmost clarity at all. That's more the way 
you warn your friend to not touch your beer than the way you teach a kid to 
deal with a giant fanged predator.

I definitely don't think this was the way Hagrid was thinking.  It doesn't 
seem like he even considered the idea that someone would get hurt to prove 
his point, he just didn't (continues to not) consider the animals hurting 
people as a possibility he really has to focus on.  If this was Hagrid's 
attitude it sounds like getting somebody hurt was the point of the class.

irene_mikhlin:

It's lucky that Snape's a "sadistic git" then, not another teacher "with a 
heart of gold", like Hagrid. I'm not sure Hogwarts could take two.

Magpie:

LOL--yeah, pretty much.  There's a reason that amongst the people who really 
have to take the classes, Snape is actually more popular.

Ginger:

I was useless to give him the finer points because I don't remember being 
taught them myself.  I just know how to do it.  I think that's where Hagrid 
was during his first year.

Magpie:

I think you already sound like a better teacher than Hagrid.

Ginger:

And, if I may be a bit snarky, it couldn't have happened to a nicer person 
than Draco.

Magpie:

And yet ironically, CoMC becomes the class where Draco usually speaks for 
the class.  The Trio tells him to shut up on principle, but often agrees 
with him too. And they all drop his class.

-m