Does DD understand parseltongue? (was: Saving Ginny (was Re: Lockhart's incompet
mercurybluesmng
MercuryBlue144 at aol.com
Wed Nov 30 17:46:36 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 143759
> > > Potioncat:
> > So, yes, I think DD speaks parseltongue.
>
> bboyminn:
>
> So, my point is that Dumbledore might recognised Parseltongue
without
> understanding it.
MercuryBlue:
Recognizing Parseltongue is not terribly difficult. If you hear
snakelike hissing coming from a human mouth, particularly a human
wizard mouth, and see snakes in the area (or other people who have
been hissing the same way), odds are it's Parseltongue.
> Further, it's not hard to gather someone's intend
> but their inflection and tone of voice, and general
demeanor. ...Even further, this idea is supported by the
> fact that the Gaunt's weren't engaged in long drawn out deeply
> intellectual conversations in Parseltongue, the statements are few,
> blunt, emotional, and to the points. Again, not hard to guess their
> intent.
Actually, from the perspective of someone who neither already knows
nor can understand what's being said, I'd say it'd be very difficult
to guess. In particular, Morfin was hissing about Merope leaning out
the window to look at Tom. An observer who was out of the loop could
tell from that that Morfin was taunting Merope, and from the next
few lines of hisses that whatever-it-was infuriates Marvolo, but how
would they be able to tell that the subject of conversation was
Merope's crush? Let alone who on.
> To the central point, in general Dumbledore may or may not speak
> parseltongue, but the conversation in question does not actually
> reveal this fact for us.
MercuryBlue:
Yes, exactly. Dumbledore must know what is being said, but it
doesn't necessarily follow that he understands it. Like I could look
at the first page of Sorcerer's Stone en Espanol and know it's
introducing the Dursleys, but it doesn't necessarily follow that I
understand the words on the page. Which, as my Spanish vocabulary
consists of maybe thirty words, I can't.
Since Dumbledore DOES know what's being talked about, he MUST have
(had?) some way to translate it into English. It might be that he
speaks Parseltongue, but that's terribly unlikely; it might be that
he understands Parseltongue though he can't speak it, but it seems
that those two skills go hand in hand; it might be that one of the
weird silver things takes care of it; or...
We know Dumbledore met with a known Parselmouth while in possession
of the memory, because he got it from Morfin Gaunt. Is it too much
of a stretch to suppose he asked Morfin for a translation?
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