Snape being punished by Fake!Moody . WAS: Bullying

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 3 03:51:03 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 141072

> Potioncat:
> Had it been the real Moody on the stairs, covering for Harry and 
> shooing Snape away, it would have been one thing. Had it been an 
over 
> zealous Professor Moody bouncing ferret Draco on the steps, it 
would 
> have been hilarious. (In fact, I have to admit, on first read it 
was.)
> 
> But once you realize "who" it is and what he's up to, it isn't 
> satisfying at all...at least not to me. 


Alla:

Oh, I agree with you if it were to turn out that it was Real!Moody 
doing all those things to Snape, it would have been even more 
satisfactory to me, since it would mean that good guy finally 
interfered to put Snape into his place. I am still hoping for 
example that I will see Remus punching Snape in book 7 really hard, 
for example, but I doubt that is going to happen any time soon. :-)


But as I said upthread - I will take what I can get. Whoever makes 
Snape suffer even for a short while , I am perfectly fine with it. ( 
I don't have to say there that I don't advocate an eye for an eye in 
RL, etc. You know that, right? :-) But this is a beauty of fiction. 
I can imagine that bad guy ( IMO of course) will get his dues in 
most unpleasant way, because nobody will get hurt :-))

I think I would even be happy if Voldemort makes Snape to suffer in 
book 7 IF that would not be some kind of gruesome, violent 
punishment ( cruciatus, death, etc.), but some painful blow to 
Snape's pride. AND I still want Voldemort to die most slow and 
painful death. :-)

I just realised something else about the scene between Snape and 
Barty Jr. As I said upthread that IMO there are two villains ( of 
different variety or maybe not) in this scene. I am perfectly happy 
with Barty Jr. fate now. I KNOW that he got his dues, he was 
punished.... should we say more than enough? I got my emotional 
satisfaction for Barty's wrongdoings, while for Snape's wrongdoings, 
I as a reader am so far from being emotionally satisfied yet. It is 
probably another reason why I am not bothered by that scene even 
though I know that it partially lead to Harry's have to go through 
Graveyard. I know that Barty was punished for that. Hmm, I think I 
am bubbling here. I have to think about it.


Although, who knows, maybe Snape will indeed suffer remorse after he 
killed Dumbledore. So, if he will indeed torture himself enough and 
I will see at least some small part of it, I will be fine with that 
too. As I said several times, conflicted!Snape is  the only version 
of good Snape that I can understand after HBP.


Oh, and of course Draco's punishment was hilarious to me on the 
first read too. It still was satisfactory AND at the same time 
sadistic thing to do even on the second and third read.





Potioncat:
<snip> 
> I'm not sure Crouch sees Snape as OFH so much as someone who 
didn't 
> suffer. Barty's point isn't to let Snape know about OFH!, it's to 
get 
> Snape away so that Crouch can continue in his plot to kill Harry.


Alla:

Oh, I don't know. If we are indeed missing some pieces of the 
evidence about Snape's true allegiances, I think it is quite 
possible that Barty will take a pleasure in taking Snape down a 
notch by letting him know that he ( Barty) knows that he is not 
truly loyal to DD, but only loyal to himself.

Of course Barty wanted to get Snape away, but those two goals are 
not exclusive, IMO.



JMO, 

Alla, who apologises for incoherency of this post, since she is very
tired.







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