Wand breaking was Harry's bias again, several posts

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 141100

Carol earlier:
> >BTW, someone in another thread expressed the idea that expelling a
student necessarily results in having the student's wand broken. Do we
know that for a fact?
> 
> 
PJ responded:
> We have two examples in canon that point that way, yes.  First (and
the only example we have of a student actually expelled) is Hagrid. 
He was expelled and his wand was broken.  Then in OOtP the first
letter Harry gets from the MoM states that he's been expelled from
Hogwarts for breaking the decree of underage sorcery and that ministry
representatives would be calling at his place of residence shortly to
destroy his wand (Pgs 21-22 Scholastic).
> 
> It appears that any crime worthy of expulsion is also worthy of wand
breaking.  I can understand this as you wouldn't want a untrained
wizard loose in the country with a wand!  Some of the trained ones are
scary enough.  :-) <snip>


Carol responds:
Yes, but I've already cited both of these examples in the post you
snipped, 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/141028

Hagrid's wand is broken not because he's expelled but because he is
thought to have committed a crime (releasing the monster that killed
Moaning Myrtle). And the rules have been changed for Harry's intended
expulsion--ordinarily, he would not have been tried before the
Wizengamot for underage magic or performing magic in front of a
Muggle. He, too, is accused of a crime, not breaking a school rule.
Ordinarily, expulsion and criminal trials are two separate things. A
criminal like Bellatrix Lestrange will have her wand broken before
she's sent to Azkaban. Sirius Black's wand was presumably destroyed,
too. He certainly doesn't have it when he excapes from Azkaban. 

But I'm not talking about child "criminals" like teen!Hagrid and
Harry). I'm talking about expulsion for violating school rules. If,
for example, Ron and Harry had been expelled for arriving at Hogwarts
in the flying Ford Anglia, would their wands have been taken away and
broken? (r maybe that's not a good example, since they were also
breaking wizarding law. At one point in CoS, Hagrid threatens Draco
Malfoy with expulsion is he refuses to take his detention. I don't
think we have any evidence that his wand would have been broken in
that instance. (Using the Imperius Curse and attempting murder is
another matter. He'll receive a lot worse than expulsion if he's caught.)

In any case, to return to your original point--that Snape seems to
want Harry wandering around the WW wandless. If so, it's odd that he's
tried so often to *prevent* Harry from breaking the rules (e.g., going
to Hogsmeade without permission) and that he has twice had good reason
to expel him: When HRH knocked him against the cave wall with an
Expelliarmus, he (mis)informed Fudge that they were confunded and when
Harry performed Sectumsempra on Draco, he gave him a series of
detentions rather than expelling him. In all other instances, he knew
full well that the expulsion of a Gryffindor was not within his authority.

Carol, finding it a bit odd that the examples she rebutted were
snipped and then re-cited as new evidence