Harry IS Snape.

[horridporrid03]

No: HPFGUIDX 141233

> >>Betsy Hp:
> > Let's see.... He [Snape] attempted to save
> > the lives of the Potter family. 
> > <snip>

> >>Eggplant: 
> After he had put the Potter family in danger in the first place.

Betsy Hp:
At this point in time, Harry doesn't know that.  So his hatred is 
*not* at all connected to Snape's culpability with the events at GH.

> >>Betsy Hp:
> > He succeeded in saving Harry's life at least twice. 
> > <snip>

> >>Eggplant:
> And as I have pointed out before there are excellent reasons why  
> even a supremely evil Snape would save Harry's life on those      
> occasions, in fact if he had not done exactly that then my evil    
> Snape theory would be blown out of the water.

Betsy Hp:
But the fact remains, Snape *saved Harry's life*.  Without Snape, 
Harry would be dead.  I agree that Harry has no idea what Snape's 
motivations were. (Though I'm sure he'd *love* to believe it was for 
the most evil of reasons.)  But the motivations don't count in this 
instance.  You don't *reasonably* hate someone because they saved 
your life.   

> >>Eggplant:
> I don't believe that is true, I believe Harry is convinced Snape  
> is at least partially responsible for Sirius's death, and if he    
> had seen chapter 2 as we readers had he would have even more      
> reason to think so.

Betsy Hp:
But Harry didn't read "Spinner's End".  So, though he'd *love* to 
have a logical and clearcut reason to blame Snape for Sirius's 
death, he realizes that at this point, he really doesn't.  What 
Harry is doing (and has been doing) is deciding Snape is guilty and 
then looking for evidence to prove it so.  (Probably very much like 
young!Snape did with James.)  That's a backwords way to arrive at a 
correct conclusion.  In fact, it's a perfect way to miss things.

> >>Eggplant:
> I would not call Harry "unreasonable", I would call him a good    
> judge of character, a much better judge than Dumbledore.
> <snip>

Betsy Hp:
Heh.  Oh yeah, Harry's grand.  That's why he chose to cheerlead 
Quirrell throughout PS/SS, pulled Lockhart down into the tunnels 
with him in CoS, and fanboy-ed Fake!Moody like a browncoat at a Joss 
Wheadon love-athon in GoF.  Yup, it's hard to pull the wool over old 
Harry Potter's eyes! <g>

> >>Eggplant:
> If Harry doesn't trust another person even though he has not seen 
> him do anything bad and later it turns out that the person is     
> indeed untruthful then I think Harry should be praised not        
> condemned; I would certainly pay very close attention the next    
> time he says he doesn't trust somebody.

Betsy Hp:
I'd feel the same way, *if* Harry was right about someone.  But, 
while Harry gets close at times, he generally gets over emotional 
and blows it.  Yes, Draco was up to something, but Harry missed the 
fact that Draco was being blackmailed into it.  Yes, Snape was a 
Death Eater, but Harry completely reworks the facts when he boggles 
at Dumbledore's trust in Snape.

I think the same emotional snap judgement was at work in GoF when 
Harry was so suspicious of Cedric.  That suspicion caused Harry to 
put off following Cedric's advice with the egg, IIRC, and nearly 
cost Harry the tournament.  I belive it's something Harry will need 
to overcome if he's to succeed in defeating Voldemort.

> >>Betsy Hp:
> > Wait, so Snape *didn't* save Dumbledore
> > from the ring curse?

> >>Eggplant: 
> I don't know for a fact that Snape didn't save Dumbledore, but I do
> know enough to be very skeptical of such a claim, Harry did too. 

Betsy Hp:
Why would Dumbledore lie?

> >>Betsy Hp:
> > Who did then?

> >>Eggplant:
> Neither I nor Harry have any idea, however there are about 6      
> billion people on the planet and almost every one of them is a    
> more likely candidate than Snape. 

Betsy Hp:
I wouldn't even buy this in a real life situation.  (Could we at 
least count out everyone living in Japan at the time of the 
incident?)  In a work of fiction it's completely nonsensical.  I 
mean, sure, JKR could bring forth a completely new character at the 
eleventh hour.  "Gee kids, it was Mrs. Hedgerow all along!"  But I'm 
doubting she's gone through all this trouble just to cheat in the 
end.  IMO, anyway.

Betsy Hp