A Cold Equation (was Re: The Trial Of Severus Snape)

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No: HPFGUIDX 141360

> Sherry now:
>  
> > First of all, we do not know that Dumbledore 
> > was dying.  We know he was sick, but we have no 
> > *canon* to say he would not or could not recover.
> 
> houyhnhnm:
> 
> I didn't mean that Dumbledore was dying of either the ring horcrux
> curse or the poison/cave water.  I meant that his situation on the
> tower was a fatal one.  Unless you are suggesting that Dumbledore 
was
> faking his own helplessness, I can't imagine any way that he could
> have come down from the tower alive, regardless of what Snape did 
or
> did not do.


Alla:

Well, situation on the Tower COULD have been  the fatal one for 
Albus , except there is a possibility that he did not know about the 
third provision of  the UV ( I don't believe that it is ever 
established for sure that he did knew). Yes, he says to Harry that " 
I know more than you think" ( paraphrase), but Dumbledore could have 
been referring to two provisions of the UV, which Snape informed him 
about. As Siguine quite convincingly established in her Snape essay, 
when did Snape EVER in canon admits that he made a mistake? I think 
it is very believable assumption that his pride stopped him from 
informing DD about that third provision.

So, the point I am trying to make that Dumbledore may have not known 
about  the fatalism of the situation and called Snape for help, NOT 
to receive an Avada from him. The fact that Snape may have had no 
other choice, even if he felt that way, does not excuse him in my 
eyes.

Of course, this is far from the worst scenarios I am imagining his 
storyline may go, because while he is guilty of saving his own neck, 
instead of dying for Dumbledore, this Snape also may honestly 
believe that  the Light will benefit from him staying alive rather 
than Dumbledore.

Of course to me in that scenario Snape also has to realise at the 
end that nothing excused him killing his mentor, not even the best 
motives, but again - he can turn out to be quite redemable in that 
scenario.




> houyhnhnm:
<SNIP>
 I'm not sure how
> it could be "proven", but if it turns out that Snape hated 
Dumbledore,
> wanted to kill him and save himself, then, yes, Snape is a bad man,
> but he still performed the right action in that particular 
situation
> even if it was for wrong reasons.

Alla:

I am still not getting why Dumbledore's death  HAS to be inevitable? 
For all we know, DD could have given antidote, IF the potion was 
that bad and lived?

Snape could have at least sent the message to other order members, 
stall DE and yes, die in process , maybe, in order to be sure that 
leader of the light has a chance to finish Harry's education, help 
him destroy other four horcruxes ( the fact that Dumbledore , the 
greatest wizard of all times was only able to destroy two is still 
telling me that Dumbledore would really like to stay alive since  it 
would be MUCH harder for Harry to finish off FOUR of them.


JMO,

Alla.