Trial of Severus Snape - WAS Re: Harry IS Snape.

[colebiancardi]

No: HPFGUIDX 141395

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "M. Thitathan" <ch3ed at y...> wrote:
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> CH3ed: 
> I agree with colebiancardi's very well thought-through analysis. I
also agree with Juli17 and Claudia that we really don't know enough
back story to judge whether Snape murdered DD on the order of DD or
LV. I am leaning on this being pre-arranged by DD; however, I must
admit my confidence was quite shakened by JKR's interview on July 16
(excerpt below), which makes me wonder if JKR did really mean it when
she had DD tell Harry that since DD is more clever than most wizards,
his mistakes tend to be bigger.
> 
>  From Mugglenet.com: JK Rowling interview July 16, 2005.
> ES: How can someone so -
> JKR: Intelligent -
> ES: be so blind with regard to certain things?
> JKR: Well, there is information on that to come, in seven. But I
would say that I think it has been demonstrated, particularly in books
five and six that immense brainpower does not protect you from
emotional mistakes and I think Dumbledore really exemplifies that. In
fact, I would tend to think that being very, very intelligent might
create some problems and it has done for Dumbledore, because his
wisdom has isolated him, and I think you can see that in the books,
because where is his equal, where is his confidante, where is his
partner? He has none of those things. He's always the one who gives,
he's always the one who has the insight and has the knowledge. So I
think that, while I ask the reader to accept that McGonagall is a very
worthy second in command, she is not an equal. You have a slightly
circuitous answer, but I can't get much closer than that.
> ES: No, that was a good answer.
> MA: It's interesting about Dumbledore being lonely.
> JKR: I see him as isolated, and a few people have said to me rightly
I think, that he is detached. My sister said to me in a moment of
frustration, it was when Hagrid was shut up in his house after Rita
Skeeter had published that he was a half-breed, and my sister said to
me, "Why didn't Dumbledore go down earlier, why didn't Dumbledore go
down earlier?" I said he really had to let Hagrid stew for a while and
see if he was going to come out of this on his own because if he had
come out on his own he really would have been better. "Well he's too
detached, he's too cold, it's like you," she said!" [Laughter] By
which she meant that where she would immediately rush in and I would
maybe stand back a little bit and say, "Let's wait and see if he can
work this out." I wouldn't leave him a week. I'd leave him maybe an
afternoon. But she would chase him into the hut.
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> CH3ed
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The one thing that I can glean from her interview, as she doesn't want
to give too much away, is that there is someone else who is DD's
confidante, his partner.  she states that more will be revealed in
book 7, so I am wondering if Snape was that confidante - afterall, we
had that argument in the Forest between Snape & DD according to
Hagrid.  Why did they take it to the Forest, instead of DD's office? 
Not to be overheard by the portraits, I assume.  The fact that Snape &
DD argue about something that DD wants Snape to do tells me that Snape
is DD's equal in a lot of things, not just a grunt.  Grunts don't
argue to their Leader like that.  I believe that Snape knows *all* by
now, the Horocruxs, the full Prophecy, everything.  

Just as she gave that big clue prior to book 4 - Watch Snape, there is
more there than meets the eye(referring to his DE's days, and that he
is a spy for DD), I think she has more to be revealed in book 7 about
the different roles that members in the Order play.  I can see Snape
as the confidante, as he is the only one who is as skilled in
Legilimency and  Occlumency as DD and is more skilled than LV at this
point.  I doubt DD & Snape have that many secrets from each other. 
But they are both very secretative men towards the other members in
the Order and even Harry.  DD cannot tell Harry the full role Snape
has at this point, as Harry is not skilled in Occlumency and Harry
could easily betray Snape's role.   DD purposely kept Harry away from
himself in OotP because of that reason - Harry could betray DD to
Voldemort, by accident of course.


I remember her comment about Snape prior to book 4 and was wondering
if Snape was the loyal servant of Volemort at that time.  The
graveyard scene where Voldemort tells the DE's that there is a loyal
follower at Hogwarts - I thought, oh, no! It's Snape!  But I was
incorrect.  That is the beauty of Rowling's books - she redirects the
clues back & forth.  It could be that she will not do this in book 7 -
but why would she?  She has a writing style and why would she change
it now?  There are still many who think Snape is evil, many who think
Snape is evil but good, and many who just don't know.  

Can't wait for book 7!!

colebiancardi
(who cannot take full credit for the analysis on the Tower Scene. Many
posters here have posted the same analysis, only more eloquently written)