Dumbledore's pleading
Nicolau C. Saldanha
nicolau at mat.puc-rio.br
Mon Oct 10 15:18:00 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 141405
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "hickengruendler" wrote:
> But there's another reason, why I consider Snape to be on the good
> side, which has nothing to do with Snape but all with Dumbledore. I
> have already adressed this earlier, but haven't seen an answer to it.
> (Doesn't mean there wasn't any answer, I haven't read any Snape
> related post the last months). I simply cannot see Dumbledore begging
> for his life. And I refuse any exception that has him doing this.
> This is the man who said "Death is nothing but the next great
> adventure" and told Tom that it was his biggest mistake to think
> there's nothing more than death. Have him begging for his life in the
> minute, where it really is on stack, simply would negitate this.
<SNIP>
I find that this (Dumbledore's pleading) is the bit of canon which
does not fit into either of the main theories. It is grossly
off-character for Dumbledore to beg for his own life. It is equally
off-character for Dumbledore to ask Snape to kill him with an AK (for
whatever reason: it shatters the soul). I find it also extremely
unlikely that the pleading refered to something unrelated. To me there
is only one way out: Snape did not kill Dumbledore. Dumbledore was
begging for Snape to *pretend* to kill him by saying "Avada Kedavra"
and casting a different spell to knock Dumbledore out of the tower: I
think all the non-verbal spell thread was there so that JKR could come
up with this without cheating. The ring, potion and cave water killed
Dumbledore. In other words, Dumbledore was begging for Snape to take
the blame for a crime of which he was innocent, and this is something
which fits Dumbledore's character perfectly well. It also explains the
hatred and revulsion in Snape's face.
This theory also creates the opportunity for the a dialogue near the
end, when the lie is no longer necessary, along the lines of:
Harry: "Snape, you killed Dumbledore!"
Snape: "No, Potter. You did."
Harry is, of course, innocent of murder, but this creates interesting
possibilities.
Back to lurking...
Nicolau
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