Dumbledore's pleading

[zgirnius]

No: HPFGUIDX 141446

lupinlore wrote:
> Besides, how in the world would DD have communicated such a 
request?  
> Legilimency?  That would be terrible writing indeed.  Not only is 
it 
> unspeakably contrived, it also introduces all sorts of powers not 
> previously in evidence.  We have no evidence whatsoever that 
> Legilimency can be used in such a manner -- indeed, all the 
evidence 
> we have is that it most definitely cannot be (all the evidence we 
> have for mental conversations is Harry/Voldemort, which is 
constantly 
> stressed as being a special case, NOT Legilimency).  Even if 
> Legilimency can be used in such a manner, DD had only a few 
seconds --
>  unbelievable and contrived to say he could have pleaded silently 
> with Severus in that length of time.
> 

zgirnius:
I have seen this claim, that DD and Snape could not have the 
necessary communication on the Tower via Legilimency, in a number of 
posts over the last few months. The more I consider it, the more it 
seems to me thast this is wrong. Limiting ourselves only to cases of 
Legilimency involving *Snape* we have everything that is needed.

Clearly, DD and Snape could not have had a long involved debate on 
the pros and cons of the situation, or on the morality of DD's 
(hypothetical) request. Whether or not such is possible via 
Legilimency, it would (as you indicate) be a ridiculous exercise in 
which to engage under the circumstances. All that is needed to 
establish DDM!Snape, though, is for an order to be received and 
understood.

I used the scene in HBP where Snape sees the Advanced Potions text in 
Harry's mind as my model. Using no more than that ability of Snape's 
to see images in the mind of DD, I think DD ought to be quite capable 
of making his wishes clear. It's a trilfe long so I will not 
reproduce it here. If you're interested it is in: 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/141410

(Sorry, paste the link into your browser, I don't know how to make it 
a "real" link...)