[HPforGrownups] Every killing tears the soul?
James Sharman
jamess at climaxgroup.com
Wed Oct 12 10:51:09 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 141494
The way I always saw this is that the killing does rip the soul, but both
parts would stay where they where and maybe heal a bit (in an imperfect scar
tissue kind of way). The horcrux creation takes advantage of a fresh rip to
physically separate the broken piece from the remainder.
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Subject: [HPforGrownups] Every killing tears the soul?
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Michell Thitathan
<h2so3f at y...> wrote:
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>
> Lupinlore wrote: "The idea that Snape and Dumbledore cooked up
this possibility in advance is thoroughly unbelievable. I'm not
saying JKR definitely won't do it, but to do so would be the worst
kind of far-fetched conspiracy theory mumbo-jumbo. For one thing it
would amount to Dumbledore asking Snape to tear his own soul,
something I don't think DD as he has been presented to us would ever
do (and yes, I think that using the AK to kill DD would amount to
Snape tearing his own soul even if it was set up in advance with
DD's blessing).
> CH3ed now: I'm wondering if all killings tears the soul.
That 'canon' was provided by Slug in a specific setting -he was
telling young LV about how a horcrux is created (and one is created
by someone pretty evil because not only must he kill someone, he
must intentionally take advantage of the tearing of his soul by
making a horcrux out of it). <SNIP>
Elyse:
I have asked this question before as well. This is precisely my
contention with the whole Killing-tears-the-soul so called "canon".
Slughorn told Riddle that in order to create a horcrux, you have to
murder someone. This was so that you could use the death of another
person to harness your soul piece to the object.Nowhere is it said
that *every* killing rips the soul.
And if this was the case, Voldemort would have his soul in any
number of pieces by now. He has loads of people. GH itself would not
have happened. Lily and James' deaths had already torn his soul. The
significance of the magical power inherent in the number seven would
be lost.
I also like the point raised about indirect killings ripping the
soul. Does this mean that the bridge that was destroyed by the DE's
at the start of the book killing a lot of Muggles caused their souls
to be broken down into fragments? Did Emmeline Vance and Amelia
Bones contribute to the number of torn soul pieces in the WW?
Elyse, who has a rather morbid interest in the mechanics of soul
splitting
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