Twist JKR? / Harry's emotions - his strength or weakness?

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 141561

> > >>Nora: 
> > ...(excepting the continually open question of Snape, which has   
> > been left open enough and deliberately so that I don't really     
> > count any resolution as a 'twist', more as simply finding out the 
> > background). 
> 
> Betsy Hp:
> Ooh, I think you're *really* mistaken here.  The resolution of 
> Snape's story arc will send screams of either joy or pain 
throughout 
> fandom.  Folks on both sides of the issue are near positive they 
> know the real story.  Whatever reveal is made is sure to have some 
> sort of twist element to it.  Heck, the very fact that the Snape 
> question is taking two books to answer is suggestive, IMO.  And not 
> of simple house-cleaning.


Alla:

Erm.., of course the fans on both sides of the fence or in the middle 
would be screaming with joy or pain. :-)

But that does not necessarily make  the end of Snape's story arc  to 
be twisty and BANGy.

Yeah, we do not know details of Snape story life and why DD trusts 
him, but  the bottom line is that he is either loyal to DD or loyal 
to Voldemort or loyal to himself only, IMO.

It IS interesting to me to find which one, of course, but I doubt 
that I would find it twisty, even if the resolution would be not the 
one I expect. Because it is still could be one of those which is 
predictable regardless of which way it goes. 


> Betsy Hp:
<SNIP>
 In a way, I think it's *less* 
> direct to expect a Snape related twist to *not* occur.

Alla:

What IS your definition of Snape related twist?


> Magpie:
><HUGE SNIP>
It's not that 
> Harry has to change his nature.  On the contrary, to truly be 
> himself is to claim his true strength, his Will, and connect to all 
> the other elements of his personality through that.  His emotions 
> will always give strength to his will; he just can't let them 
> *replace* his will.  Draco and Snape have so far been weakened the 
> opposite way, I think.   
> 
> So Harry does have to learn a bit from Snape there, but Snape has 
to 
> learn from Harry as well.  Harry, I'm confident, will learn what he 
> has to learn.  Snape quite probably won't.  So far he hasn't, so he 
> has not grown. He's still as Slytherin and so emotional as ever, 
> driven by hate, but he's also still trying to repress it.


Alla:

I loved your post, in fact I agree with a lot of it, except that 
again I am REALLY not sure that not letting his emotions replace his 
will is what Snape was trying to teach Harry. I am just not. It is a 
good advice and maybe Harry will learn that,a s long as he does not 
have as you said - changing his nature, but IMO Snape has NO clue 
what nature Harry has and when he says those words, he is thinking 
about himself only and what he IS thinking , IMO, is that he was a 
fool to show his emotions  and  therefore the same advice is good for 
Harry.

Besides, you nailed it when you said  that you are confident that 
Harry will learn what he has to, IMO.

I am just not sure that Harry will learn it from Snape, that is all. 


JMO,

Alla