Wand shadows (Was: Angels on my mind)

[Ceridwen]

No: HPFGUIDX 141727

> Saraquel wrote:
> <snip>
> > What's interesting about the GoF battle is that when the wand
> regurgitates its spells, it is not the avada kedavras which emerge,
> but the shadows of the people that they killed. As though the wand 
> somehow stores/reproduces the connection between the killer and the 
> killed, rather than the act of killing.  I'm wondering if this scene
> is a foreshadowing of something to come. I haven't exactly worked 
out
> what that might be yet, but there is the notion of feelings involved
> in casting a spell to bring into the mix.
> > 
> > We know that in order to cast some spells - patronus,avada 
kedavra - 
> you really have to mean it.  In other words, you have to involve 
your
> whole being – head, heart and wand.  We know that powerful emotions
> can produce magical outcomes without the use of a wand or spell
> (discussed recently on the list), and that Harry seems to do this 
not
> infrequently. In other words he manifests his feeling directly into
> magic. We have DDs speech about his parents living on in Harry.  Put
> all that together and might we have the spirits of the angelic four
> emerging from Harry's wand because they somehow `live' in his heart,
> and through his intense loving invocation, emerge from his wand to
> help him at the end? <snip>
> 
> Carol responds:
*(snip)*
> But just suppose that Snape performed a real AK on Dumbledore, or 
that
> whatever spell Snape cast caused Dumbledore's shadow self to appear,
> fully aware of what had happened on the tower and fully aware of his
> surroundings, like the shadows that came out of the wand in the
> graveyard. Not DD as angel coming to aid Harry, but DD as shadow
> summoned to explain the events on the tower. Who better to confirm 
the
> thoughts (if any) exchanged by the two Legilimens? Who better to
> explain exactly when and how he died and whether he was already 
dying
> and what plans, if any, he and Snape had made in relation to the UV?
> 
> I think this would be a better method than talking to a portrait 
that
> can only repeat catch phrases or witnessing the scene by entering 
the
> memory in a Pensieve (which would still show it in real time from 
the
> outside and still be subject to the same (mis)interpretation as the
> original event, even by witnesses less prejudiced against Snape than
> Harry. No one, not even Harry, would doubt the word of a shadow
> Dumbledore.
> 
> If, indeed, the graveyard scene foreshadows something in Book 7, 
maybe
> it's Dumbledore's final appearance and the exoneration, or at least
> the vindication, of Snape.

Ceridwen:
I'd been thinking that the spirits in LV's wand might have some role 
to play in the final battle.  This was before HBP, and I thought the 
spirits would be the only possible way to defeat a VoldySoul released 
from his body as it was at GH.  Also, it would have been a satisfying 
revenge for their deaths, IMO.  Harry having the brother to LV's wand 
just seemed too coincidental otherwise.

I still think there's something they'll be able to do.  LV is afraid 
of death, and these shades are the result of his own murdering ways.  
They also represent the lives on the Other Side, a place LV is afraid 
to go, and now that he's split his soul into so many pieces, he may 
not even be able to go.

I hadn't gone past the PI on LV's wand, though.  I like the idea of 
Snape's wand providing the answers to all our questions.  And, from 
what I gather, the MoM can milk a wand for the spells it has 
performed, so even if we get a Dead!Snape, it can still be done.

On Harry's wand disgorging the four 'angels', I don't think that 
would be done.  The shades issue from the wand that killed them.  
That would imply to someone watching, that Harry killed all four.  
Naturally, he couldn't have killed his parents, and certainly not 
with that wand.  But the rule seems to have been set that the wand 
which does the killing releases the spirits, and indicates its 
owner's guilt.

Ceridwen.