CHAPDISC: HBP 2, Spinner's End

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 142030

> 1. Bellatrix kills a fox, thinking it could be an Auror. Does she 
> suspect Snape's home is being watched, or is she always looking 
over 
> her shoulder for an Auror? Do you think all DEs would be this 
trigger 
> happy, or is it just Bella?

Alla:

I love your questions, Potioncat. For the chapter which was being 
discussed so very often, you certainly lead us to not very well 
researched territory yet. :-)


1. I think Bella DOES watch over her shoulder every second . She has 
to in order to stay alive, doesn't she? I mean, she is a member of 
terrorist organization, who escaped from prison and this terrorist 
organisation is not legal in WW, right? 

As to whether all DE are that trigger happy as her, well for very 
same reasons I want to say yes, on the other hand maybe they do 
exercise a bit more thinking prior to start shooting Avadas.  I have 
no idea.



> 3. Bella knows Narcissa is going to visit Snape, but she is caught 
by 
> surprise (equaling that of many from this list) at the location. 
She 
> calls it a Muggle dunghill and doubts that any of "our kind" has 
ever 
> set foot there. In fact, Snape, Pettigrew and Narcissa all seem 
> familiar with the area. Yet it was Bella who was supposed to be 
part 
> of young Severus's gang. What do you think is going on here? How 
long 
> do you think Snape has been using this location?


Alla:

I don't know how long Snape had been using this location, whether it 
is his father's home or not, but the location itself makes perfect 
sense for me as for Snape the spy ( no matter whom he is spying for :-
)) I mean, if he wants to hide from as many wizards as possible from 
both sides, where else to hide but in Muggle neighborhood.

I am also not surprised that Bella does not know about the location, 
even if Snape was using it for quite some time. I mean, even if they 
hang out together at school, there is no specific reason that Snape 
would invite pureblood Bella to his home ( if it IS his family home), 
if for no other reason that Snape could be ashamed of his home.

After school - well, Bella was in Azkaban for quite some time, Snape 
was in Hogwarts and when they returned to Voldie, we can see that 
there is no love lost between those two, right? :)

As to why Narcissa knows the location - I think Neri has  the best 
answer to this question, I just want to say that there is nothing inc 
anon IMO which stops us from speculating that Cissy was also a part 
of the gang.



> 
> 4. Snape's tiny sitting room is lined with leather bound books and 
> contains a threadbare sofa, an old armchair and a rickety table. It 
> had the "feeling of a dark, padded cell." A padded cell is used for 
> someone who needs protection from himself. What does this room, or 
> the house and neighborhood, tell us about Snape? Do you think this 
is 
> his usual home away from Hogwarts?

Alla:

That he needs a better looking furniture and is in desperate need of 
more socialising with his  neighbors? :-) I don't know, I guess if 
one likes  the argument that Snape is his own worst enemy, padded 
cell comparison strengthens it, I suppose.


> 
> 5. Narcissa is described as having a note of hysteria in her voice 
> and the look of a drowned person. She then enters a room that has 
the 
> feeling of a padded cell.  What does that tell us about Narcissa?  
> How does that fit with her actions later in this chapter?

Alla:

I absolutely believe that Narcissa desperation is real. I believe it 
because she is shown acting desperate with Bella ( There is nothing I 
would not do anymorre).

Come to think of it, because of Cissy acting desperate with Bella, I 
am not quite buying the theory that Voldemort told Narcissa to come 
and force Snape to enter into UV, I think she did it all on her own.




> 7. This is a serious chapter, with lots of dark images. It's 
> informative too, but it's difficult to decide which information is 
> truth and which is deception. What images or feelings made an 
> impression on you? How do they affect your interpretation of the 
> story? 


I think I like this question of yours the best. As you may know to me 
the book is good when it engages not only my thoughts, but my 
emotions  as well, and this chapter certainly provided it on so many 
levels. Luckily HBP came out recently and I still remember some of my 
feelings and images after the first read.

For some reason I was pleasantly surprised that Bella is capable of 
maintaining some sort of normal conversation with her sister. I 
thought she was far too gone in the sanity department to do so. Not 
that I now think that Bella is completely sane, mind you, but at the 
very least sometimes she acts as normal person, sort of. I don't like 
when villain is just crazy and that's all, too cartoonish  for my 
taste.

Snape - well, I remember the feeling of intense dissappointment and 
the image of the character I had crushing down in front of my eyes. " 
Spinned him a tale of deepest remorse" - not cool , Snape, so not 
cool. ( Those are my feelings, not really debating it now :-))

Oh, how could I forget - I had this image,which made me ill,  that 
fanfic writers will now write canon based slash stories with Snape 
and Peter as main characters, because they, you know, live 
together. :-)

And that is from someone who loves slash, but just picturing these 
two together. Shudders....



Thank you so much.

I skipped some of your questions, because I want to know what others 
think first.

Alla