[HPforGrownups] How important is the right sluggish memory?

elfundeb elfundeb at gmail.com
Wed Oct 26 12:19:02 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 142115

Lucianam wrote:
>
> I think Dumbledore has been Time Travelling all through HBP. That would
> explain why Scrimgeour so desperately sought Harry's aid to tell him where
> the headmaster was, why Dumbledore always carefully timed his meetings with
> Harry. And the reason Dumbledore didn't recognise the memory Harry presented
> him after the burial as the wrong one was because he was a 'different
> Dumbledore' from the one who had showed Harry the Sluggish memory. Meaning,
> 'Dumbledore right after burial' and 'Dumbledore showing Harry Sluggish
> memory' each had different amounts of information, and probably 'Dumbledore
> showing Harry Sluggish memory' had more info than the 'other' Dumbledore.

 While I admire the inventiveness of your theories, I don't think time
travel, as we know it, could explain Dumbledore's absences. (I agree with
Jen that Dumbledore was looking for Horcruxes, specifically trying to locate
the cave.) In PoA, Harry and Hermione travel back in time 3 hours, but from
everyone else's perspective, they were never missing -- it's as if time
stood still while they were gone. Also, I don't see how Dumbledore could
collect memories from people without being seen, as he would have had to ask
them to extract the memories. (Harry needs cooperation from Slughorn to
collect his memory.)
 We also have not seen time-turners used to move forward -- Harry and
Hermione used the time-turner to go backwards, and then simply relived the
time until they caught up to their departure time. This is not so great an
obstacle, though. The time-turners in the Dept of Mysteries seemed to move
time in both directions. However, you'd probably need a differently
calibrated time-turner ( e.g., where a turn equalled a day, or even a year)
to move back and forth in time. Hermione's time-turner seemed to work well
only for same-day travel.
 <<Jen, who could never actually explain how time-travel worked in POA,
but wouldn't mind seeing it again in limited doses.>>
 I'm not sure I could trust JKR to use time-travel consistently with they
way it was used in PoA. As for not understanding how time-travel works, I
doubt that the WW knows either. If they knew all about it, maybe they
wouldn't have a whole room devoted to it in the DoM. And the explanation
Hermione gives in PoA, which she claims to have been told when she was given
the time-turner, aren't fully consistent with how events actually unfold in
the book.
 Debbie
wondering if she should ask Santa for a time-turner this year


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