Spinner's End as home (wasRe: CHAPDISC: HBP 2, Spinner's End
lyraofjordan
lyraofjordan at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 27 14:14:30 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 142167
Carol:
> > I can't see either young Severus or his mother Eileen "hiding in
> > plain sight," actually, even with Muggle-repelling charms on the
> > house. Wouldn't people notice, at the very least, the absence of
> > a TV antenna and a car in a 1960s house, even if they couldn't
> > tell that the house was lit by candles rather than electricity?
> > Wouldn't they notice a woman or a boy wearing what looked like a
> > priest's cassock or a graduation gown?
Potioncat responded:
> Well, I would think that a marriage between a Muggle and witch
> would have some Muggle things and some WW items. So, likely there
> was a telly and a Floo. I'm sure there was electricity, although
> Eileen may have used a lot of candles. Severus may have played with
> a toy wand and a chemistry set. ;-) Eileen must have been
> comfortable in the Muggle world, or how would she have met Tobias?
> I would bet young Severus wore Muggle clothes at least part of the
> time.
>
> It seems to me, Snape has completely rejected his Muggle heritage.
Lyra now:
Well, Potioncat, you've touched on a topic that really fascinates
me, one that I've never seen anyone write about: How does a
wizard/muggle marriage or family life work? And I tend to agree with
you, that there must be some sort of compromise-mixture of the two
ways of doing things. In the first place, I think all us muggles on
this list would agree that giving up electricity, TV and the
other "magic" we depend on is too much to ask. And it seems to me
it'd be much easier for a wizard to adjust to flipping on a light
switch (Arthur Weasley aside) and using an electric oven than
depriving a muggle of basic necessities because he/she can't use a
wand. So I think that Eileen and Tobias must have had a household
that combined some of each one's way of doing things (assuming they
did, in fact, remain married).
I can also envision Severus growing up in a muggle neighborhood,
being the local weird kid, with all the teasing that that entails. I
would expect he hoped all that would stop when he got to Hogwarts,
(and then he found out rich, pureblood kids could be just as nasty
as poor muggle kids). In fact, I can see him learning/inventing his
curses as a way to get back at his young tormenters vicariously,
even if he couldn't actually use the curses on them because of the
Secrecy Act (which Carol points out upthread).
Where'd he practice these curses to begin with? Well, possibly while
visiting the Prince relatives, but I'm not convinced a witch can't
keep doing magic in her own home, even if it's in a muggle
neighborhood, as long as she is discreet about it. Since the MoM
apparently keeps records of where all wizards are living (don't we
get that idea in OOTP, at the hearing, when they say they don't have
a record of any wizards in Little Whinging and Mrs. Figg says they
wouldn't have a record of her because she's a squib?) they would
have a record of Eileen Prince Snape wherever she lived. If Sevvie
was practicing curses at night after Mom had gone to bed, the MoM
wouldn't realize it was underage magic (based on the Weasley twins
experience, anyway) as long as he didn't do it out in the street
where muggles could see.
Eventually, as Potioncat notes, Snape totally rejects the muggle
part of his heritage, not because he never was exposed to muggle
ways of doing things, but because wizarding appealed to him more,
for reasons that could range from the powerful feeling he got from
doing magic to the fact that he found acceptance among the
Slytherins, who probably found him just as strange and nerdy as
everyone else, but who also appreciated his ability to create curses.
Eek, I hope I haven't just written a very long "I agree" without
adding anything.
Lyra
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