Did Snape defend trio at the end of PoA? /Are appearances important to Snap

colebiancardi muellem at bc.edu
Fri Oct 28 11:49:01 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 142214

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "a_svirn" <a_svirn at y...> wrote:
>
> > colebiancardi:
> >> really? I wish I had PoA on me right now. I was under the
> > impression that Snape never heard that PP was an animagus; that he
> > only heard about the Prank and then appeared in the doorway.
> >
> a_svirn:
> Well, you are wrong here, he came in when Lupin started his tale.
> That's when the door cricked and the kids suggested that that was
> because the place was haunted. So he stayed and listened the whole
> story about the Marauders becoming animagi.
>

colebiancardi:

Well, I did stated I didn't have PoA on me at that momemt. However, I
do know. The loud creak when the bedroom door open(Snape entering)
happens after Lupin mentions Peter was the one who betrayed them(p.
552 Am Ed Hardcover). Lupin then discusses his trials as a werewolf
and then how James, Siruis & Peter all became Animagi to keep Lupin
company. He does mention that Peter was called Wormtail. However,
Snape never heard the bit about Peter being the spy, nor the night at
Godric's Hollow, nor Sirius's innocence. The last thing before Snape
revealed himself to the room, was Lupin talking about the Prank and
Harry stating "So that's why Snape doesn't like you,...because he
thought you were on the joke?" p.357

But nowhere in Lupin's speech, from the time the bedroom door opened
to the end of the chapter does Lupin talk about Peter being the one
who killed Harry's parents.

> > colebiancardi:
> > And I never got the impression that Snape was going to hand over
> > Sirius to the dementors by himself. I was under the impression
> that
> > Sirius would be turned over to MoM and they would determine
> Sirius's
> > fate.
>
> a_svirn:
> Perhaps the film's contamination? In the book Snape left no room for
> interpretation:
>
> "Up to the castle?" said Snape silkily. "I don't think we need to go
> that far. All I have to do is call the dementors once we get out of
> the Willow. They'll be very pleased to see you, Black... pleased
> enough to give you a little kiss, I daresay..."
>
> Besides, if that were the case, why would the Trio attack him?

Nope, not film contamination at all. p. 359 "Two more for Azkaban
tonight," said Snape, his eyes gleaming fanatically. "I shall be
interested to see how Dumbledore takes this...He was quite convinced
you were harmless, you know, Lupin...a tame werewolf -"
"You fool," said Lupin softly. "Is a schoolboy grunge worth putting
an innocent man back inside Azkaban?"

So, Snape didn' mention bringing Sirius & Lupin directly to the
dementors, but to Azkaban. And also, the "give me a reason" line was
when Sirius started towards Snape and Snape pointed his wand at him.
Had nothing to do with dementors - perhaps Snape was going to either
kill or hurt Sirius.

However, Snape does, on the next page, threaten Sirius that they don't
have to wait until the castle, but he(snape) could call the dementors
directly, once outside of the Willow(your passage). Since Snape is
one of those rule-followers, I am sure this was just a taunt to
Sirius, as he DID mention Azkaban - at least that is how I read it.
Snape was a bit unhinged in this scene - Rowling describes him as
having a mad glint in his eye, he seemed beyond reason, shrieking.



>
> > colebiancardi:
> >As far as silencing the Trio, it could be that Snape was
> embarrassed
> > by the whole event in the shack;<snip>
>
> a_svirn:
> Don't you think that he choose a very strange strategy to avoid
> the "embarrassment"? He exposed himself as unbalanced not to say
> deranged person before the minister. Surely it was even more
> embarrassing?
>

Have you ever been so angry, felt so misunderstood, felt cheated of
something that you knew you were right about that it doesn't matter
what other people think about you? I have - trust me, it ain't pretty.
Anger is an emotion where there is no logical reasons why we act the
way we do. and at this point, I don't think Snape was thinking about
strategy.....


colebiancardi
(glad to have PoA in front of me now - but not for long, I have to go
to work..) 







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