Prophecy

Rachel Ellington rbeache at earthlink.net
Fri Oct 28 19:47:23 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 142261

I've just been listening to OOTP and have just finished the bit where Dumbledore shows Harry the prophecy from the pensieve.  I am also a few days behind, so forgive this response if it repeats anything that has already been said.

Sweety12783 says:
"and the Dark Lord will 
mark him as his equal, but he will have power the Dark Lord knows 
not . . . and either must die at the hand of the other for neither 
can live while the other survives . . ."  I think that the statement 
means that the one marked as an equal will have to die by the hand 
of the other in order for LV to be fully mortal (hence "... for 
neither can live while the other survives...) 

RE: 
I have been reading the prophecy, in fact most of the office scene, in a fairly straightforward manner.  Unfortunately, I do not have the creative imagination that many readers do!  In the office scene, Dumbledore basically tells Harry that Voldermort has made this a self fulfiling prophecy because V. believed Harry to be the ONE who could kill him.  Interestingly, Harry, as the Daily Prophet calls him, is the "Chosen One" because Voldemort chose him first.  We do see, however (IMHO), that Harry possesses something that Neville does not, whether inherent or due to upbringing.  

I agree w/ Expectopatronnie that neither Harry or LV are living what could be considered a full life: they are both consumed by the other.  Currently, both lives are focused on killing (LV)/defeating (H) the other.  I believe Dumbledore tells Harry (Chap 37 OOTP?) that one or the other must die...

Dumbledore tells us clearly what differentiates Harry from LV: his ability to love others.  Harry's antics have mostly been undertaken to shield/protect others or avenge the dead: his wish to simply have the sorcerer's stone; his desperation to save Ginny from the CoS; his overdone success at saving the kids from the Mer people; his endeavort to save Sirius at the MoM; his attempt to strike Snape as he flees Hogwarts.  

Expectopatronnie:
has Harry unknowingly forged some kind magic on 
LV. Maybe even some kind of ancient magic LV dispises so much. (LV 
overlooked ancient magic when he killed Lily he could do it again 
can't he?)  

RE: 
 I think this is a great question, but I would hope that Dumbledore would have included this in his "confession" to Harry in OOTP, but who knows!  One thing I think we overlook is that Lily did not "perform" the magic that protects Harry, but that Dumbledore used this magic to place protection on Harry (not sure of exact reference, Chap 37 Lost Prophecy, US edition).  

RE, quite interested to see how the prophecy plays out and hopes Snape is not involved!



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