Time Turners

[smilingator4915]

No: HPFGUIDX 142263

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "lucianam73" <lucianam73 at y...>
wrote:
> 
> It doesn't make any sense. If you can go back in time and fix 
> everything, we wouldn't have a plot _ so of course you CAN'T  use 
> the Time-Turner to fix all the world's wrongs. 
> 
> Which brings me to the point: why did Dumbledore allow, or even, 
> suggest, that Harry and Hermione would go back in Time and change 
> history, that particular time? Why was it ok then, but not ok, say, 
> to save Cedric or Sirius or Harry's parents?
> 
> I fear JKR will not address this particular problem, but I wish she 
> did. It is absurd that you can go back in time and fix something for 
> no particularly better reason than you'd have to want to fix 
> everything that has ever went wrong.

smilingator:

This issue seems to pop up every few weeks... and it all depends on
how you view time travel in the Potterverse. If you believe that when
Hermione and Harry traveled back in time and CHANGED the events that
happened (i.e., saved Buckbeak from death after he had already died,
rescued Sirius after he had already been "kissed"), then you would
definitely find it "absurd" that you can go back in time to fix some
things but not everything that goes wrong.
However, I believe that JKR provided more than enough evidence that
when Harry and Hermione used the time turners, they did not "change"
anything. I think that we saw the same events happen, but from two
different points of view. However, if you read CAREFULLY, you can see
that the second perspective we observed was no different than the
first time we witnessed the events. In other words, the first time we
were privy to the observations, we THOUGHT Buckbeak was killed and we
THOUGHT Sirius was going to be kissed by the dementor and we WONDERED
who saved Harry, Hermione, and Sirius from the dementors by the lake.
However, from the second time we viewed the story, is was KNOWN that
Buckbeak was not killed, we KNEW Sirius was rescued and flew away on
Buckbeak and we KNEW Harry that time travelled saved non-time
travelling Harry, Hermione, and Sirius.
Complicated, yes... but that's what I love about this book! I thought
JKR did an outstaning job of fooling me the first time with the events
and then throwing in the time travelling twist and carefully placing
clues that showed that the events NEVER changed; we just viewed them
from two different perspectives.
So, why can't Harry just time turn and save Dumbledore and Sirius
(besides the fact that it seems the time turners were destroyed)?
Because you can't change what happened in the past.
Like I said, this issue has been debated countless times and no one
has ever changed their mind on how they believe time travelling
works... I kind of wish JKR had never written that the time turners
were destroyed or that wizards could kill their past or future selves
because I think that's what is throwing a lot of people off from what
she tried to do. But, although she created an incredible world, she is
still human and writers make mistakes too.

smilingator... who is counting down the days until GoF hits the theatres