Why can't Harry? WAS Re: Why Can't Harry and LV live while the other survives?

M.Clifford Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Sat Oct 29 15:58:12 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 142283

> Beatrice
> 
> The quote is: "and either must die at the hand of the other for 
> neither can live while the other survives"  (OotP 841 - American 
> Edition). 
<snip>
> In HBP, Fudge tells the PM this about LV: "'Yes, alive,' said
> Fudge. 'That is - I don't know - is a man alive if he can't be
> killed? I don't really understand it, and Dumbledore won't explain
> it properly...'" There are other references to the fact that LV is
> not really alive and this is the reason he cannot be killed. This
> is of course explained to the reader by Dumbledore when he tells
> Harry about the horcruxes: [Harry asked] "'So if all of his
> Horcruxes are destroyed, Voldemort could be killed?' 'Yes, I think
> so,' said Dumbledore."
> 
> We know that LV is not really alive, but he would be "alive" if his
> horcruxes are destroyed and capable of dying. 
<snip> 
> I believe that that horcrux is Harry. 
<snip>
> Voldemort cannot LIVE while Harry survives. Thus he
> cannot be killed unless Harry dies. 


Valky:
A very concise and logical point I think Beatrice. I wonder if you'll
mind ever so much taking a wander with me a bit further down the lane
to try to come up with something as straightforward in canon as this
to explain why Harry cannot live while Voldemort survives. 

To clarify where my question is coming from, although I am uncertain
of the Horcrux!Harry theory, I must admit it comes of itself
(sometimes out of nowhere <g>) even when I am not searching for
horcruxes, or trying to come up with a final battle theory. Yes, I
mean Horcrux Harry comes up in the most unlikely places, like
hypothesising Dudleys worst memory for example, I have found it there
quite by accident.

The one thing I have not resolved to the point, I think, is why Harry
cannot live while Voldemort survives.

Here are some of the angles that sort of work for me, but they don't
simplify enough to ease my mind about it:

1. Voldemort survives as long as Horcrux Harry lives, hence Harry
cannot live because he remains the marked man forever hunted by Voldemort.

2. The Horcrux is capable of possessing Harry the moment his blood
protection ceases, hence he was doomed from the start to lose his life
and his body to Voldie at 17, unless he can destroy Voldemort before
then (or during which is probably more likely).


I lean to the second one because I like that it becomes a race against
time, that would be just my kind of tachycardiac drama <g>.
I know many would lean to the first because of it's poetry, and I
appreciate that point of view, but then I wonder if those that would
haven't experienced the racing heart-rate that I have with the
climactic scenes of *every* book of the series to date, to be honest I
think that JKR is capable of a final book of the series to put mine
over 200/min resting (don't hate me for my optimism ;D ). 
But then, I don't like either of them at all,  for a heap of reasons,
such as I don't like the second one because it doesn't make sense that
one piece of Voldie can possess Harry and the other cannot, and I
don't like the first one because, well, I just don't like that it
doesn't activate the adrenal gland at all. 

OKay over to you Beatrice, what can you come up with? :D

Valky
  
 
 
 







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