Snape in the Shrieking Shack (Was: Are appearances important to Snape?)

[colebiancardi]

No: HPFGUIDX 142301

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "a_svirn" <a_svirn at y...> wrote:
>
> > colebiancardi:
> 
> > I just wanted to ask one thing - Dementors aren't particular about
> > whom they kiss, so it would seem to me that Snape would be taking a
> > pretty big chance to give Sirius to the Dementors alone, without
> > anyone else around to *control* the dementors.  

<big snip of my own post :>

>a_svirn:
> And yet there are ways to deal with them. Otherwise how could the 
> Ministry employ them at all? More than one way apparently, 
> considering that Snape and Harry disagreed on the subject in HBP. I 
> am pretty sure that Snape, being as he is such a Dark Arts expert, 
> would know just how to handle them. Don't forget the context of the 
> quote you give: Dumbledore addresses himself to his *students* most 
> of whom had never even tried to conjure a Patronus. Fudge for one 
> feels himself quite confident dealing with them without a single 
> Auror at hand. And in GoF a Dementor that de-souled Barty was pretty 
> particular: 
> 
> "The moment that - that thing entered the room," she screamed, 
> pointing at Fudge, trembling all over, "it *swooped down on Crouch* 
> and - and -" (emphasis mine – a_svirn). 
> 
> Interestingly enough, the excuses that Fudge conjured for his 
> behavior sound very much like Snape's dismissal of the Trio's 
> testimony:
> 
> "Why he killed them?  Well, that's no mystery, is it?"  blustered 
> Fudge.  "He was a raving lunatic!"
> 
> Compare with Snape's: 
> 
> "You see, Minister?" said Snape. "Confunded, both of them...."
> 
> Looks like Fudge learned from the master. Or from the Potions 
> Master. 
> 

see, I think the MoM HAS ways to control the dementors - I mean really
control them.  Re: Umbridge, Fudge in your scene above.  The dementors
"work" for the MoM, not Hogwarts.  So, I still think Snape would be
taking on a huge risk with all the dementors out there in the
forest(there are more than one or two - there is quite a few of them).
 Since Snape is not an employee of MoM, I doubt he can control them -
sure, he could fight them back, but how many of them at a time?  And
if he fought all of them back, well, Sirius wouldn't have been kissed.

> <snip> 
>  
> > colebiancardi
> > (and those 5 pages do not translate into one hour of acting.  It is
> > all dialogue - try reading it outloud - 10 minutes tops)
> >
> 
> a_svirn:
> 
> All right, it's not an hour. Maybe just a quarter of an hour (come 
> on, be generous). What difference does it make? It still means that 
> he stood there and listened to their fond memories, simultaneously 
> discovering their animagi secret.
>

I am not arguing that Snape heard about their secrets, just a) he
didn't hear Peter's shape(a rat) and how Peter has been hiding as
scabbers all those past 12 years.  All Snape heard was about Lupin's
past, the animagi, and that Snape, in a way, was right about Lupin all
the time and the Prank - which is when Snape revealed himself.


colebiancardi