Harry's character development

quick_silver71 quick_silver71 at yahoo.ca
Thu Sep 1 06:39:17 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 139269

quick_silver71:
> > Harry is already a good dueler. 
 
bboyminn:
> I'm not sure where you get this. Harry's dueling skill has never 
> been more than adequate. At best, he as stumbled through each duel 
> with a bit of luck and little more. 
> 
> In his duels with Draco, Harry has just scraped by with luck. Draco
> and Harry are about an equal match, although in the duel in the
> bathroom in HBP, Draco seems to have the upper hand until Harry 
> cast the 'Sectumsempra'. Of course, Harry was on target so 
> regardless of what curse he cast he would have had the advantage, 
> but let's not forget that up until that point Draco was standing 
> and Harry was on the floor stuggling.


quick_silver71:
The luck agrument is a bit of a gasp for me because Harry beats 
Draco hands down in terms of reflexes not luck. In the time it takes 
Draco to say "Cruci-" Harry says "Sectumsempra"...and that starting 
the spell after Draco!!

Harry manages to hit virtually every DE in Hogwarts with some sort 
of spell at the end of HBP with the exception of Snape. Yet 
McGonagall, Lupin, Tonks, Ron, Ginny, Neville etc had not managed to 
elminate a single DE (after Harry arrives McGonagall finally defeats 
her DE)...that was done by another DE (a AK from one DE hit 
another). Once Harry arrives he drops Fenrir, Amycus, and the 
enormous blond DE (who he hexes while still laying on the floor...so 
much for bad aim!!)

If Snape had not intervened there is a good chance that Harry could 
have captured/defeated every member of DEs sent into Hogwarts.
 
bboyminn:
> I don't see Snape 'deploying everything'. Using everything - yes, 
> but 'deploying everything' in the context you imply - no.  What I 
> see Snape doing is defeating Harry at every turn and he does so 
> easily.  Snape has higher priorities, saving Draco and getting the 
> heck out of there; Harry is more like an annoying tedious fly that 
> is bothering Snape. Snape's superiority over Harry seems easy and 
> effortless to me. 

quick_silver71:
Yet Harry has beat Snape...twice. Once in PoA and once in HBP. 
Clearly Sbape has the advantage over Harry at the end of HBP but 
Harry was able to beat an emotional Snape in PoA so I think that 
it's a reversal of fortune (and a warning about emotional states).

Harry is better then the DEs now and he is certainly as good a fighter as McGonagall or Lupin. With the exception of Snape and Voldemort is there a wizard walking that can call themself a superior warrior to Harry Potter?  

quick_silver71







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