Apologies and responsibility
lupinlore
bob.oliver at cox.net
Fri Sep 2 00:12:15 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 139322
> Pippin:
<SNIP>
> Everybody does it? Socially retarded wizarding world? They had it
> coming???
>
> Y'know, it's amazing how much like a Snape apologist a Harry
apologist
> can sound. Jo strikes again! <veg>
Lupinlore:
Chuckle. True, true. The difference, of course, is that Harry
deserves a break whereas Snape, being an evil and worthless piece of
you-know-what, not to mention a serial committer of emotional child
abuse, does not. :-)
> Pippin:
><snip>
> And what about Hermione's objection that the HBP's
> spells and techniques weren't likely to be Ministry approved?
Lupinlore:
And since when is the Ministry's rulings ever been good for anything?
Pippin:
It's
> fine to experiment, but I hope that lab of yours isn't in the habit
of
> using human guinea pigs without their consent. I hope it
> doesn't allow teenagers to download anonymous formulae from
> the internet, pass them off as their own work, and prepare them
> for the first time in a in a classroom, potentially exposing other
> students to harmful or explosive mixtures. And I certainly hope
> it doesn't lie about the source of its information, as Harry
> did when he was finally asked.
Lupinlore:
Chuckle. No, and we are not in the habit of using magic to solve our
problems, either. We are, however, in the habit of rewarding people
who use information in the public sphere to perform their assignments
in an exemplery way. Harry WAS taking credit for his own work. That
he had used somewhat different instructions, handed to him by his
professor in a textbook that had been sitting in the school cupboard,
is totally irrelevant. Potions, from what we have been shown, is not
taught at Hogwarts as a theoretical art. It seems to be purely
practical -- here is the formula, make the potion. Now memorize and
repeat. Harry performs his assignment -- he makes the potion. If we
give someone an assignment and say, do this and here are some
instructions, and they find better instructions in the public domain
on the internet (and the instructions in the HBP book were VERY much
in the public domain) we congratulate them heartily and on initiative
and creativity and mark them down for early promotion.
Pippin
> Harry had no understanding of the theory behind the HBP's
> innovations, but he was taking credit for
> them as if he did. As others have said, he'd have been
> caught and embarrassed sooner or later.
Lupinlore:
And once again, potions at Hogwarts is not a theoretical art, from
everything we've been shown. The method is: here's the recipe, make
the potion. Harry makes exemplery potions. The fact that he does
not understand the theory is irrelevant, since as far as we can see
nobody understands much theory about anything at Hogwarts (it really
is more of a trade school than a liberal arts institution).
Pippin
> Harry knew there was a good chance Slughorn wouldn't approve
> of crib notes -- why else would he think he needed to hide them?
>
Because they were giving him an advantage over Draco Malfoy, a person
whom he believes, correctly, to be in league with the vilest darkness
in physical existance. Beside that, I wouldn't expect him to act any
other way, on a moral basis or any other.
Lupinlore
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