Apologizing to Snape?
vmonte
vmonte at yahoo.com
Fri Sep 2 13:57:59 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 139350
zgirnius wrote:
And, for the record, if I were Snape's mother...he's been needing lots
and lots of advice about how to treat other people for about 6 books
now. We could start far earlier in the books with the apologies!
vmonte responds:
I agree. I've been rereading the books and there are numerous times
that Snape does Legimency on Harry (even as early as book one). Harry
doesn't like it, and he feels the intrusion into his mind. Not only
that, it's not until book 5 that Harry realizes that there is such a
thing as Occlumency and Legimency--so it's obvious that when he felt
that Snape was reading his mind, his feelings were right on the mark.
How is what Snape does to Harry, without permission, any less worse
than what Harry did to Snape when he saw that memory?
"Boiling with anger at Snape, his desire to do something desperate and
risky had increased tenfold in the last few minutes. This seemed to
show on Harry's face, for Dumbledore moved away from the window and
looked more closely at Harry, a slight crease between his silver
eyebrows.
"What has happened to you?"
"Nothing," lied Harry promptly.
"What has upset you?"
"I'm not upset."
"Harry, you were never a good Occlumens--"
The word was the spark that ignited Harry's fury.
"Snape!" he said, very loudly, and Fawkes gave a soft squawk behind
them. "Snape's what's happened! He told Voldemort about the prophecy,
it was him, he listened outside the door, Trelawny told me!" (Page
548, HBP)
It's nice that Dumbledore doesn't use "mind rape" to get information
from Harry.
It's also interesting that Snape did not get mad at Harry when he got
glimpses of his awful childhood. Snape got angry with Harry over the
penseive memory because Harry saw something that Snape was trying to
hide--and it wasn't about being hung upside down. (Harry just doesn't
realize what that info is yet--I'm pretty sure Hermione will, though.)
1. We know that question 10 is about how to identify a werewolf.
2. We know that Lupin was looking strange and that Harry wondered
whether the full moon was approaching.
3. We get a glimpse of the kind of person Lily was. We know that she
liked James (at least I got that impression), and that James liked her.
4. We know that Snape has a very strong reaction to her interference
and oddly calls her a muddblood. (The next year he proudly gives
himself the moniker: Half-Blood Prince.)
In PoA Snape makes fun of Lupin's third year students for not knowing
how to identify a werewolf; but Snape takes his OWL exams in 5th year.
Do you really think that he didn't know how to identify a werewolf?
Let's assume that he didn't. What do you think he was thinking
afterwards while he was going over his exam notes? I'm pretty sure
that he was putting two-and-two together about Lupin. We know that
Snape was always following James and gang around. And that he was
trying to figure out why Lupin and the nurse where going to the
whomping willow every month.Snape even gives this particular essay to
Lupin's students--and guess who realizes what Lupin is because of it?
Hermione!
Hermione's mind works a lot like Snape's, by the way. She also has a
nasty jealous temper (she attacks Ron with the birds in HBP). Since
Snape seems to be proud of his mix blood background it makes more
sense that he called Lily that particular name because he knew that it
would hurt her and maybe because he didn't want James to know that he
had any feelings for her.
Vivian
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