The Opposite of a Horcrux- another idea

Chys Lattes maliksthong at yahoo.com
Sat Sep 3 05:57:33 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 139416


> Christina:
> 
> This is where I start to get hesitant about the theory.  Obviously,
> since the Opposite-Horcrux creation would require Lily's death, the
> spell in question must have been cast before her death occurred.  
Now
> we know that Lily had talent in charms, but I can't help but think
> back to a quote JKR gave during the MuggleNet/TLC interview:
> 
> ----
> MA: Did she [Lily] know anything about the possible effect of 
standing
> in front of Harry?
> 
> JKR: No - because as I've tried to make clear in the series, it 
never
> happened before. No one ever survived before. And no one, therefore,
> knew that could happen.
> ----
> 
> Now, I suppose that if JKR did use the Opposite-Horcrux idea, she
> could always defend her statement by saying that since Lily was the
> first person to ever try to make an Opposite-Horcrux, she didn't
> *know* for sure it would work and therefore didn't *know* for sure
> that Harry would survive the AK.  However, she seems to be giving a
> very clear and straightforward answer (which doesn't happen often), 
so
> it makes me think that this isn't the route she's on.  Of course, 
like
> I said before, I still can't think up a scenario concerning Lily's
> sacrifice that makes sense in the context of what we've heard in the
> books and interviews, so I'm sure things will get fudged a bit.
> 


Chys:

It's still plausible, I think, since there's the possibility that she 
didn't know it would happen that way, and wasn't consciously trying 
it. Maybe she was just a desperate mother trying something on the 
spur of the moment or perhaps she was simply a desperate mother 
standing between her son and death. 

Then again, I also said that Harry could be a horcrux accidentally 
because of a spell that involved using his death to create one, 
although after listening in on many posts I am starting to believe 
that that's not the case. (Though I'll admit that was the first thing 
I jumped on.)

The canon sounded to me like LV would have had to have started the 
horcrux creating process before he killed Harry to complete it- in 
order to harness the splitting of his soul, so perhaps he had done 
this and Lily's sacrifice got in the way, creating the opposite of 
what it was supposed to be, which has never happened before in known 
history? (So instead of Harry dying for LV to make a horcrux as DD 
had explained was a possibility, Harry lived and became something of 
the opposite because of measures that were already taken by LV, and 
because of the interference of Lily's sacrifice!)

About what Del said on the opposite of a horcrux being taboo at 
Hogwarts, there's also the possibility people didn't know it existed. 
Or it had been in another form, for another use, and that's why it's 
related to 'love magic' which is what (I believe DD?) meant by some 
ancient magic that Lily knew. Then again, if it were mentioned at 
Hogwarts, wouldn't it be something so mundane and simple and 
insignificant that no one noticed it, like Tom may have passed it by 
because perhaps it was an everyday thing and considered weak? (Love 
is the answer! *lol*)

I agreee with what Del said about Harry's eyes, that's quite a good 
possibility since an infants eyes do change and potentially Sirius 
may have simply concluded that he hadn't noticed the change in his 
godson's eyes, after seeing him after so many years in Azkaban. Or 
maybe it's not something that people think about, maybe they assumed 
that his eyes simply changed to green naturally. Maybe we should ask 
JKR. *though I doubt we'd get an answer for a few years.*


*off to read the other posts about an opposite of a horcrux now...*

Chys






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