[HPforGrownups] Should Snape be forgiven? /Re: An (interesting ?) parallel/

[Irene Mikhlin]

No: HPFGUIDX 139472

dumbledore11214 wrote:
> Irene:
> 
>>But that's what I'm saying above - it was different
>>for Edmund, he was 
>>firmly back on the side of light, so he could afford
>>to behave 
>>differently. Snape can not. It may well be that he
is
>>not able to, or 
>>would not want to, but we can't tell really, because
>>we've never 
>>observed him without that limitation.
> 
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> OK, Irene, I am very sorry, but I am still not
getting what your 
> point is. I am not being sarcastic, I truly don't
understand your 
> argument.
> Yes, it was probably different for Edmund, but why
did you bring up 
> the parallel originally, weren't you saying that
just as Edmund was 
> forgiven, Snape should be to?
> 
> If it WAS different for Edmund, doesn't it make the
parallel to be 
> irrelevant? 

My point is - first you win the war, then your make
amends. It's different for Edmund because they've
ended the war quickly, and he was able to start making
amends the very next day.
Snape is still in the middle of the war. His character
arch is unfinished. The jury is out. My only problem
is with position "No, we have enough information to
convict, don't bring any more witnesses".

> Alla:

> 
> But he cannot have his cake and eat it too, IMO. If
he indeed 
> striving towards changing his ways, trying to make
up for enormous 
> misery he cost Harry ( and probably other people
too, but that is 
> just speculation), he should behave totally
differently than what he 
> was doing.

I don't totally agree. He owes Harry an apology, fine.
But he does not owe him changing his ways as a strict,
mean and sarcastic teacher.

> 
> I don't know if I buy  the "war still going on"
either, because 
> Voldemort only returned at the end of GoF. 

But they've obviously discussed contingency plans
before that. The way Dumbledore acts at the end of GoF
is nothing short of "OK, remember plan B? Time to
implement it". And since the plan included Snape going
back to Voldemort, they had to prepare for that plan
years in advance.

> 
> It makes me doubt that Snape truly changed his ways.

You may well be right.

Irene


	
	
		
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